Ok, I need help with this archiving thing in Sonar...

[tubedude]

Ok, I was bitching a while back about how long it takes to save a project as a bundle file and then getting it to CD.
Some people mentioned per-project audio files being faster. What is this, how do I do it, and why?

Is it possible for me to open up my cakewalk projects folder (where all the songs are) click on a song and drag it to the CD burning program and save it that way? Will it open back up right? I guess I can try and see.

Suggestions please!
Thank you dearly.
I have another 20 songs to archive for a 19 (yes nineteen) song project coming up. That scares the shit outta me. 19 songs. Damn. I'm going to archive all the drums for 19 songs at the end of the same night too so that I dont risk having to do it all over again for free in case I crash or something.

Help!

[moskus]

Originally posted by tubedude
What is this, how do I do it, and why?

You go to Options -> General (I think) and tick use Folder-Per-Project under the Folder-tab. Now, every new project you make will have its own folder with its own audio-folder. Just burn the whole directory to disk and you're safe and sound.

If you haven't used the Folder-Per-Project before, then you need to use the bundle-backup as before. Or maybe you could choose Save as and it will then transfer all your audio to a new directory.

[dachay2tnr]

Originally posted by moskus
You go to Options -> General (I think) and tick use Folder-Per-Project under the Folder-tab. Now, every new project you make will have its own folder with its own audio-folder. Just burn the whole directory to disk and you're safe and sound.

If you haven't used the Folder-Per-Project before, then you need to use the bundle-backup as before. Or maybe you could choose Save as and it will then transfer all your audio to a new directory.

The Check Box is on Options > Global on the Audio Data tab.

As moskus said, this will now open a dialog box everytime you open a new project asking you to create a new directory (folder) for this project. You can name it something like D:\NewSong1. Your project file (.cwp) will go in that directory, and all your audio will go into a subdirectory D:\NewSong1\Audio. Therefore everything related to your project will be in that directory and subdirectory.

For older projects, you should back them up to a bundle file (.cwb) first. Once you have backed it up to a bundle, reopen the bundle file and you will get the same dialog box as if you were starting a new project. This will then dump everything related to this project into a new directory (folder), e.g., NewSong2. After that you can delete the bundle, and backup everything to a CD.

[tubedude]

Ok, say I open a project called "metallica"
Now I have 5 songs I want to record for metallica, how do I put each individual song into the Metallica project folder? And if I put them all in one folder, they wont fit on a CD, for sure. Right?

I tried this last night: I opened up my CD burning software, then opened Sonar, went to the projects, clicked and dragged a song to my burning software, and clicked "burn CD".

It burned it, and then I opened it from the CD drive. It loaded all the waveforms but wouldnt play. I guess it couldnt get the info from the CD that fast. So I saved it, and when I hit save, it loaded all the audio from the CD, and then it played fine. So I gues this works, and seems like the fastest way to archive a song since I go straight to CD without any bouncing and screwing around. Foresee any problems with this method?

Thanks!~

[BloodShark]

If you use Folder-Per-Project in your example you should have a folder named 'Metallica' and put each song/project inside this folder, having a dir structure like this:

C:\Metallica\Song1
C:\Metallica\Song2

... and so on.

If they fit into a single CD will depend on each song's file size.

BS

[dachay2tnr]

I think in most people's working environment, a "project" is considered the equivalent of a single song. One project = one song. The "project" being the .cwp file (cakewalk project) and all the audio associated with it.

In your case however, you seem to be using the term "project" to refer to a collection of songs. Sort of like an album. In that case, BloodShark's method should work fine for your way of working. Create a directory (folder) for the entire CD, and then subdirectories under that for each of the individual songs.

When Cakewalk speaks of "per project folders," however, they generally mean a single song in a folder. In other words, the .cwp file and related audio.

[tubedude]

Dig.

My big question for now that I need an answer to then.... will it be ok to click and drag right into my CD burning software like that? Any problems you can forsee? It seemed to work fine on the one I tried.
Thanks

[dachay2tnr]

Originally posted by tubedude
Dig.

My big question for now that I need an answer to then.... will it be ok to click and drag right into my CD burning software like that? Any problems you can forsee? It seemed to work fine on the one I tried.
Thanks

Shouldn't be any problem, but you might want to check the size first. Some of the folders could potentially be larger than the capacity of a CD. In that case, you would have to split up the files over 2 CD's.

[moskus]

And remember to burn the whole folder... A friend of mine thought it was smart to burn only the audio-folder.

[tubedude]

How do I split em up? I had one that was too big already.

[James Argo]

For example:

D:\Metallica\Song 1 (it contains the CWP file)
D:\Metallica\Song 1\Audio (it contains all audio files related to the project Metallica Song 1)

Have a look in the folder D:\Metallica\Song 1\ there's CWP file and folder Audio contains many audio files in various size. Select some of them with the CWP file and burn in one CD. Done... Select the other files (the remaining audio files) in the folder D:\Metallica\Song 1/Audio. Burn them in another CD.

Now, you have two CDs. The first one contains CWP file and some audio files related to the project, the other CD contains the remaining audio files that didn't fit in the first CD.

When you restore them, make sure the order and directories are set the way they were... I think you get what I mean...


Jaymz

[tubedude]

YEAH! HELL YEAH!

Thanks.

Off to open up some space.