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I think this is very interesting...

http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ua1000.html

What do you think, fellow Cakeys? Will this be a nice replacement for my Audigy?

The reviews I've found thus far are very good.
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http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ua1000.html

What do you think, fellow Cakeys?
I'm thinking pie... got some ?

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Will this be a nice replacement for my Audigy?
Nope... It's too expensive and doesn't play soundfonts... Now gimme the pie...

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The reviews I've found thus far are very good.
Ain't that what we got when we decided to get Creative's ? Aaarrghh... Die review die...!!!


Bwahahahahaha.... Peds.. where have you been, eh ? Nice to see you still keep the spirit alive Just don't let them beat you down, fella... Now please come to my review... First, I knew Edirol was such very good card, but I never had one... specialy USB version. IMHO, I'll stick with PCI until I don't have other choice (M-Audio Delta1010LT do me good baby... ). I rarely found someone use USB devices run well first place. Takes time to make it work the way you expected. I'm not sure... Anyway, AFAIK, you never told me you need multi audio I/O (still using HomoStudio, right?)... then what make you think it's gonna be good for you ? Look at the price... ~$700 street price... don't you think it's better for you to get it's "lighter" brother Edirol UA-5 or Edirol UA-700 I don't know... Keep coming, fella...


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I'm no expert but have been surfing around quite a bit in various forums and the general consensus is that USB is not the best option for digital audio interfaces. Even with USB 2.0, the data transfer rate is not quite there. Firewire seems to be doing pretty well as an interface on some cards or the good "old fashioned" PCI which is cheaper right now. The main thing to watch with the PCI cards is the compatablity with your motherboard chipset to avoid problems. Since your using Cakewalk stuff, good WDM drivers are a plus also.

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where have you been, eh
Working my ass off, earning lots of money. Now it's time to spend.

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All USB devices work perfectly on my PC (yep, mouse, keyboard, midi keyboard, midiman 2x2, the archos mp3 player of my wife, scanner etc). The only thing that isn't USB is my printer.

One thing to watch out for with USB is the myth that you only need one USB port and your PC and connect every device through. My brother had some serious troubles with his midi keyboard turning off and on randomly: after some research and testing I found out it was because he connected it to his (computer) keyboard. Everytime you typed something, the midi keyboard turned off (or on). Very weird. So my advice is: give each device its own USB port.

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... doesn't play soundfonts...
Which quality card does? I thought 7ms latency, and no possibilities of conflicting with other PCI devices could do the trick.

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you never told me you need multi audio I/O (still using HomoStudio, right?)...
Jeez, Jaymz....wake up! Homostudio2004 can handle multi audio. Like I've said repeatedly: with the release of 2004, my desire for SONAR is gone. Look, when I buy this (or something similar) I can get rid of my Behringer mixer (as I can plug all my equipment straight into the card) and finally earn some respect on this board (I'm not actually busy doing work you know, I just got scared of you guys LOL )

I've checked out the lighter brothers. But I think I'd be better off buying the Midiman - Omnistudio 66 again and spending some time getting to know it. Last time I bought it I was too fed up with soundcards, so perhaps I decided too fast it wasn't for me.
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All USB devices work perfectly on my PC (yep, mouse, keyboard, midi keyboard, midiman 2x2, the archos mp3 player of my wife, scanner etc). The only thing that isn't USB is my printer.
He was referring to USB audio devices, and yes, many people do have trouble with them. USB was intended for the devices you list above, but definetly not for audio/video.

I would suggest you stay away from USB audio just because of all the equipment you list above. USB's bandwidth is shared across all connected devices.
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Pedullist, my fine upstanding fellow,

I have to agree with Brzilian here regarding USB. Most stuff I've read about USB & audio is that they don't really get on.

Having issued that caveat emptor, it would be downright foolish of Edirol to put out products that are going to cause a great deal of grief.

Porter of this parish has an Edirol soundcard. I don't recall which model it is, however, if Mr Porter would kindly give us the low-down on his Edirol sound card, we would be most appreciative.

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Jeez, Jaymz....wake up! Homostudio2004 can handle multi audio. Like I've said repeatedly: with the release of 2004, my desire for SONAR is gone.
Yeah, James is kind of slow...

Anyway, multiinputs is great, but NOT in a USB device. Get a PCI card. Come on, Ped. You've been here long enough to know that....
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Well, let me put it this way. I get "burps" just playing back CWP's from my USB 2 external hard drive. I don't think I would personally depend on it for tracking.

Get yourself something like a Delta 66 with the Omni breakout box and call it a day.

By the way, why are you thinking USB?
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I wasn't thinking actually...LOL

I think I'm going to give that Delta another shot...it's cheaper too.
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Hiya Peds, glad to see you are still around

We all thought you were a bit hasty sending the Delta 66 back. It is a great card. I used one next to my s/blaster for a year or so no hassle at all.

The Edirol is a lot of dosh for a USB. It just doesn't have the bandwidth for multi channel I/O.
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Actually, it is USB2, which DOES have the necessary bandwith. But, I wouldn't risk it without a decent test. Alot of USB interfaces (the ones in your pc) claim to support it, but it is a fairly new standard, so I wouldn't bet on it.

And, if you have no need for it, why go USB? PCI is the most reliable standard in your pc, and the PCI cards are the cheapest. Go PCI dude...
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Uncle Roel, I know USB 2.0 is supposed to have the bandwidth but there are enough posts that indicate problems with a fully loaded muti-channel box. As you say, a PCI card would be much more reliable.

Knowing Peddy as we do, its just the "plug and play" that appeals to him, right Pedddy?
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Knowing Peddy as we do, its just the "plug and play" that appeals to him, right Pedddy?
I thought that he'd learned by now that the correct term is "Plug and pray"...
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I thought that he'd learned by now that the correct term is "Plug and pray"...
Now this is just anti Microsoft propaganda. What operating system are you running on, buddy? Linux? OS X? Nope, you're running Microsoft. Everyday. Most of the times it works fine. Admit it, you even like working with it. Wanna switch to mac? You need to reboot your mac twice a day too these days. The only truly stable system I know is Unix. But who wants to run Cakewalk on a Xterm window? LOL

Hey.......at work, I'm happy when something breaks down or isn't working properly. Gives me a reason to work, and earn my money. But eh....at home I want to have my computer working without too much hassle.

I want to make music in my spare time, not continuing work if you know what I mean....

So yes, plug and play please. And in most cases (all, actually), it simply works! My Audigy works guys! It does his job. Not the way it was advertised, but it doesn't dropout and the latency is not great....but it IS acceptable. I've seen numerous posts about much more expensive cards crackling (yep, the Delta Omnistudio crackles in some setups) and not working, so that's why I'm hesitant to change. I've got a stable system now.

With all systems dying on me at work, I don't need a dying system at home.
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(yep, the Delta Omnistudio crackles in some setups)
You know I won't argue with you there. But until I upgrade it, I'll still choose it over the SB for audio tracking. The only thing I use the Audigy for is the midi out on occasion. And hey I'll take 24 bit crackling over 16 bit crackling any day of the week.

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Yeah, James is kind of slow...
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We all thought you were a bit hasty sending the Delta 66 back. It is a great card. I used one next to my s/blaster for a year or so no hassle at all.
See... I'm not the only one... I'm not the only one....

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***' ooon moskus, he needs custom avatar, right, uncle ?

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Hey.......at work, I'm happy when something breaks down or isn't working properly. Gives me a reason to work, and earn my money...
Me too, for oposite reason... I don't have to work when the system breaks down at work... LOL! Can't you see I'm surfing more often now ? How can I hate Bill Gates for such pleasure...? Surfing and get paid.. LOL!

Sluice, I kinda miss your old avatar It was "so you", you know...


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Ped, I can't say enough good things about the RME stuff....check it out!


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Great stuff, and has not once gave me any problem!!! I use it at home and on the road with my laptop!

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Wow dude, you really need some perspective!

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Porter of this parish has an Edirol soundcard. I don't recall which model it is, however, if Mr Porter would kindly give us the low-down on his Edirol sound card, we would be most appreciative.
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Edirol DA-2496 . I've personally had no problems with this card (once I disabled the Sound Blaster in Sonar). The converters are very nice. From what I've heard better than the Digi001... from what I hear that wouldn't be too hard. How true this next statement is, the guy who I bought it from (works for a music store in Sydney) says that he uses these cards in his studio. And down the track you can install up to 4 of these cards for 32 channel inputs.

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So Mr White Disco Afro King,

Are you more confused than ever???

What are your system specs?

I've had a bit of stuttering and glitchness with HS2004XL & ASIO. What buffer size did you specify on yours?

Porter,

How much did you pay for the DA2496? It certainly looks like the business. What are the recommended system specs for that particular sound card?

Was there any bundled software of any use with the package?

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