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View Poll Results: Are you a shredder?! How fast can you play?!
quarter notes at 90 bpm are kind of hard 15 12.71%
eight notes at 120 bpm is my limit 25 21.19%
sixteenth notes at 100 bpm!!! Wow I can almost shred!!! 29 24.58%
Sixteenth triplets at 130 bpm... watch out Malmsteen!! 26 22.03%
32nd notes at 115 bpm ... shredding is my game!!! 23 19.49%
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I play about as fast as Neil Young, which is fine for me, but I just produced and album for a Guitarist named Anthony Curtis, who many people think is the fastest guitarist in the world. Guitar Player magazine refused to review one of his early albums because they thought it was tape speed manipulation. They finally reviewed it after witnessing a performance.

He does not play in an 80s metal sort of way, but more like a Cecil Taylor sort of way. And also he does not do sweep picking and does really wide interval leaps across many strings

There is a video link from one of our sessions. It is certainly not his fastest stuff but it give you a flavor of his style.


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i've always wanted to shred. My lead playing is dreadful, but it's my fault. WANTING to do something about it and DOING something about it are two totally different monsters. I kick myself so much for being lazy about learning when I was younger. I also decided I wanted to be a bass player and put my 6-string down for 2 years and lost all my chops. Now I am relegated to playing chords and doing rhythm guitar. I suppose I will find a good teacher and get my ass back on track. But, as I said, wanting and doing.... sigh...
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hahahahaha

i have played Blue Grass for a few years now
and to tell you the true hard facts rock music is played to slow
we play out at about 130 or so on many intrumental
tunes and i find that we all burn em out about that speed
i play guitar and mondo on most of those although i can play fiddle faster than i play guitar i can find that shredder crap is easy when i had to get a strat and rock out with a stack of amps its easy.
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Shredder... no... I like to play rhythm and use a lot of chords.
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It's funny, I certainly wouldn't consider myself a "shredder" but from studying classical guitar I can hit around 200bpm playing 16ths using tremelo technique. That allows you to get a nice legato line going in the upper voice while picking out arpeggios or a counter melody underneath. It's not difficult and I actually find it relaxes my RH. The point though isn't the speed, it's the musical statement.
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Ok OK,

I fall into the shred catagory... Although I don't really do it as much as I used to....

The bottom line is that people who "HATE" shredding cannot do it and never could... Can The typical shredder play the tuned down stuff of today? "One Finger Metal" sure... It's stupid easy! ... Can a shredder play the slop emo punk? Yup again!

Now the question is... Can the slop/emo/punk/nu metal guys shred????

Shred
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I've actually gone up a notch from my original answer, mainly because I figured out that the answer to being a shredder is that there is no answer: it depends entirely on how you approach your guitar...

In any case, I spend the majority of my practice time shredding and trying to increase my speed.. but most of the stuff I play outside of it is my true love, stoner/doom metal.. so the answer to that question for me is yes: I am a groove playing one-finger bar-chorder who has the chops to shred.
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I don't shred as much as I used to. I still can, not as good, but it's still there. Not having an RG anymore its not as easy as it was before, and I just find I'm growing out of it. To me theres nothing like a good classic rock solo, blues scale or whatever.
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you've just gotta check out Alex Flouros playing Far Beyond The Sun

here's the thread if you care to follow... FAT BOTTOM Goes Malmsteen On Video...What A Crack Up...
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Guilty as charged... I love shredders... especially great sweepers and skippers....

FYI... I'm 41, and grew my chops in the 80's..... Great time to be a player!!!
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Guilty as charged... I love shredders... especially great sweepers and skippers....

FYI... I'm 41, and grew my chops in the 80's..... Great time to be a player!!!
Ahhhh the 80's

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Oh, and if you can't do that within the context of creating music thats melodic and memorable, then screw it.... you've got nothing.

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I agree that playing fast is something that has died out. in todays music it really doen't matter. Will it come back, i hope so. Not so much in leads as in rythyms. I like fast leads as well but the fast rythyms are what i think are good. Speed for speeds sake is lame, but speed to fit a song is awesome. And i agree that being able to play all that stuff is great, but doesn't mean that you always need to use it. And it is nice to know you can break it out when you need it. This thread apealed to me...i am trying to get back to a little more speed and technique.
I've got three words for ya - Strapping Young Lad. Check em out. They are everything a metal band should be.

And there's Soilwork (Natural Born Chaos is SICK) and Fear Factory (Archetype is the best they have ever done). Both use fast rythms without mastubatory solo's.
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Incomplete poll!

Where's the "fuck it, shredder's ain't got no soul" category?



Really though, not to take anything away from the guitar gods, but shredding really doesn't excite me. I'd rather write a good song . . .
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How many 'shredders' here can do it without their friend distortion pedal?

Some people can actually do it well and cleanly - but quite often people kid themselves and harm their playing by thinking they've mastered something when in-fact they are incredibly sloppy.

Practice the sweep-picking, tapping, legato and all those other 'fast' techniques *without* the distortion. Preferably on a steel-string guitar.

I don't generally find fast playing impressive unless it is as accurate as it is fast and actually says something musically. Too often it is done badly and is more willy-waving than musical. The only place I can see it being really useful is in minimalist music like Phillip Glass and John Adams stuff.

Racing up and down scales/modes/arpeggios in the middle of a metal tune = *yawn*
I can program my sampler to do that...
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what if I can play at 16th notes at 120bpm but without any left hand involvement?
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I can't shred, I play drums, my guitarist can though. How do you guys rate him?

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heh, that made me chuckle
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heh, that made me chuckle
seriously.... without any sexual puns.....

i can tremolo pick pretty fast but my left hand fingering speed isn't up to par with my right hand, so I'm wondering if I'm still considered a shredder.

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I am about sixteen and have been playing the violin for 8 years. I picked up a guitar six months ago and got the hang of it really fast. Playing the violin got my fingers to be super quick so I don't have a problem playing fast with the left hand. But the stupid pick gets on my nerves. I am considering getting my dad to teach me to fingerpick.
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