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its not exaggerated......these things (loud, no dynamics, too compressed) ARE a reality. Im not TRYING to make them a reality......they already exist. If they didnt exist....we wouldn't be arguing about them now, would we?

I told myself i wasn't going to post in here again, but for some reason.....i actually enjoy arguing with you guys. You stand by your views, and i admire that. but the reason i QUOTED you above is because, you should think of it in this view/context... Mastering Engineers purposely kill...

H H ah aha aha ha a. I knew he was being sarcastic. I just went along with it. Man, for being a HOME recording forum, it sure is filled up with alot of "cork sniffers" that act as if they have the final say in "how it SHOULD sound" as if it was part of the 10 commandments. Why are you all even...

Thank you Greg_L, yes....i did see your kind post. IMO, i think i got pretty damn close using nothing but ITB tools. As far as if you guys/gals think this mix is rubbish, is purely because you probably dont like CLA mixes to being with. So of course no matter what i do, you will always think...

ok, heres another version, but the Snare and guitars got LESS compression. The guitars also got a bit of low end boosted (so its not so sterile), and the buss compression was reduced so the SSL comp and API are booth in gain reduction of 0.5db each. I honestly like the old version better after...

Sorry guys, i dont take offense to this at all. I know you guys are giving your thoughts and feedback, But this thread seems to have been nothing but "negative vibes' of "dont bother trying to achieve a CLA mix" it seems. Im not posting here to necessarily critique my mix, but rather posting...

Wow, tough crowd in here......... Seems like eveything i post in here, is utter crap to you guys. Does anyone ever have something positive to say?

Almost 1 year later....... And im posting again. I think i got it this time. Heres a new mix (No Vox, no solo guitar) and its just my "mix bed". What you guys think of this? This is pretty damn CLA/Radio ready I think. I just need to record the Vox and add in some Solo guitar(s), Maybe a synth...

well,....i took everyone advise and tried to apply it to a new song/mix. I was always to worried about the bass eating up the low end headroom......but i guess just do what sounds best? Heres a completely new song/mix, and hopefully the bass guitar is good enough for your all approvals...

ok, heres another version.....with the bass having lass "clank", and simply more volume. Track rat, you diggin' this one better?

hmmmm....still not enough bass guitar...... What is it about the bass thats not striking your fancy? I think when I added in some slight OD distortion to it, it defiantly brought out more 'clank', in which it helps it poke through the mix. Do think it could simply use LESS 'clank', and just...

ok, heres the new mix version with the tweaks..... I feel as if its getting close. Maybe the lead guitar could still be lower a bit more.....could be a personal preference call at this point.

some EXCELLENT criticism here guys....i appreciate it! Yeas, there are 2 rhythm guitars (panned hard left/right respectively). Some of the edits ill be making.... - lower lead guitar and rhythm guitars volume, as well as notch up the hi-pass EQ to about 120hz (instead of 80hz) to bring in...

Ok, i hear ya. Agreed. I think the lead guitar does need to come down a bit.....but i think the rhythm guitars levels are OK, but may need some more hipass EQ, right now its rolling off everything below 80hz.....but maybe should bump it up to 100-120hz. I think the rhythm guitars are a bit...

Trying to go for a more brighter/aggressive sounding mix on this guitar instrumental rock song. You know,....typical radio-rock sounding stuff........ hows it sound?

using an old pair of Event 20/20BAS...... seems to get the job done.

interesting this thread i started is still going.....(yes, thats me but i started a new profile) anyways, i went and demo'd the presonus Studio one, just to see what the hype was about. Honest opinion - I didnt like it one bit. maybe it was a bit dumbed down too much, but i found it hard to...

Well, after a few more runs of tweaking.......heres what i got.... Recent Mix This is my final attempt in getting a pro sounding mix (i wont mention the 3 letter abbreviated rock mixer). YES it was all done ITB, YES i have a shity room without treatment, YES the tracking was done using drum...

SOLID TRUTH! what you just said sums it up perfectly. "Honestly, man, there's only so much that can be done in the mix." Sorry if we have been dancing around in circles, and i might have came off like a D*&khead.......but your advice is truly appreciated. The above quote kicks ass, and is so true.

Ah yes........ Its a bit of a struggle in this area. For the most part, i think my monitors are decent (Event 20/20BAS 8") but i have them placed int the worst spots of the room, and with no treatment what so ever. Im sure you ask yourself why? Well, once i actually move the monitors in...