I only ever saw the Ramones play on 3 occasions, and while they were always one of my favourite bands and i had all their albums on vinyl, their live performances, while an experience, seemed to be more about the hype and energy than the music, it was pretty loose, but it might have been crap venue soundsystems had a bit to do with that. I've read a bit about their lives, and i know Johnny could be a bit of a nasty character and DeeDee was always a bit lost, but i can see what GregL said about Joey being right. I saw the Buzzcocks play in 1990, it was in the University of Qld refectory, pretty small venue and their performance was very tight, but didn't lack that punk energy.
I always saw American punk as a continuation of the rock and roll credo, sex drugs n rock n roll, less overt social and political commentary, but then you had groups like the Dead Kennedy's. British punk was definitely more political and revolutionary in nature, Crass had nothing but that, but then there was the Buzzcocks with endless love songs and broken-hearted angst. I only really caught the tail end of it all though, and by the mid 80's it really became hard for me to see many bands as falling into any particular genre, groups like the Cult, Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus, Alien Sex Fiend, the Misfits, the Cramps, all sorta punk but not really. A lot of the politics was BS though, look at John Lydon, PIL and the butter ad he was in not that long ago...LOL
Anyway i guess this thread has strayed way off topic, but at least it's inspired me to go back and give some of this old stuff another listen, on a non Apple playback device
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