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    That looks great although it's a shame there's a need.
    I don't understand how, in 2016, every instance of every song played isn't recorded and reported.

    Even when they are reported on a song by song basis, the chances of actually getting paid are very slim, in my limited experience.
    I have, in the past, had to send databases of dates, times, radio hosts etc to PRS to claim payment and.....well...they didn't make it easy.

    They also pay a much lower rate for anything that's backdated, although they say they don't.
    The cheque they finally sent me after months of bitching says they do, or they got really REALLY fed up of hearing from me. lol

    I think it's ridiculous but it is what it is. At least there's some awareness and progress happening.


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    I wonder if Soundmouse, in the UK, is a similar thing?
    I was told that it was essential to sign up with soundmouse after we got commercially playlisted a few times.
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    BMI, at least, is free to join (for US residents at least), but unless you're in the top 10%, you don't see any royalty payments from them. If you preform your own songs live, you can enter your performances on their database and get paid for them that way (assuming the places you pay have their BMI license in place).

    BTW, there are places that steal from Soundcloud as well, so I don't leave songs that are available for streaming elsewhere on SC any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjbphotos View Post
    BMI, at least, is free to join (for US residents at least), but unless you're in the top 10%, you don't see any royalty payments from them.
    Are you sure?
    Sounds like I'm being pedantic but live performance payments are royalty payments. The venues pay a license (here) and are supposed to report live acts, as far as I know.
    I find it hard to believe that they just won't pay you for radio play if you're not in top 10%, although in the UK the majority of commercial stations seem to operate a sample basis, where they report usage on spot days each month rather than daily, and then pay out some kind of average.
    If you aren't played on a sample day you aren't on the books, as far as I know, so maybe you guys don't have an equivalent system and they just pay out to whoever is on the playlists or something?
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    In the US all radio stations must keep a running log of all songs played, but how BMI and ASCAP determine who gets royalties for radio play is not something I know details of. Maybe it's only 1%, or maybe 20% of the artists, but it's sure not a majority.
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    If that's true, it's ridiculous.
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    Are you guys thinking of this?

    "If the total amount of royalties earned from all sources in any quarterly distribution is less than $250.00,
    BMI will hold the amount earned in the affiliate’s account until subsequent quarterly earnings in that year bring the total to $250.00 or more,
    when the accumulated money will be paid.

    However, in no event will BMI hold any such accumulated royalties beyond the final distribution of the calendar year in which they otherwise would have been paid, provided that the royalties that have accumulated equal at least $25.00. Due to the cost of distributing negligible royalties, if the total amount of royalties earned from all sources in any calendar year is less than $25.00, no payment will be made and no royalty statement will be rendered."

    PRS have a lower distribution limit too, but I don't think they write off your balance after a year.
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