guitylerham
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Hey everyone,
I have a big project I'm undertaking this year. I am a singer/songwriter/guitarist and I'm shaking up my whole life, moving out of a long term relationship and into a new home and life for the next few years. I stumbled across a bar here in Seattle located in an old building that used to be a small lumber mill, perhaps. Two stories. I asked the bartender about the space above and he said it was currently unused and in need of remodel. Fortunately, that's exactly what I do for a living and we have made a good deal for me to move in and remodel the upstairs. This upstairs space, in addition to a bedroom, kitchen, and bath, has two 16' x 13' rooms side by side at the front of the unit. My band will set up in one of them. I am trying to decided which room to set up in and how to go about minimizing the noise transfer down to the bar below during their business hours.
Here's the thing, imagine the length of the rectangular building divided in half and at the front there is a roughly 13'x16' room on either side: the ceiling height in the bar below one of these side-by-side 16' x 13' rooms is probably 14' or 15' tall. The other half of the bar's ceiling is only 8' or 9', located underneath my second 16' x 13' room. This is because there is a large 5'-6' drop ceiling above the bar and a crawl space where mechanical, ventilation, etc. are located. So one of my questions is whether I should put my band in the room over the crawl space or in the room with a thin floor over the taller ceiling in the bar below. Like so:
I'd assume the drop ceiling would at least help with reducing the noise bleed into the bar below but part of me also wonders if that crawlspace might actually resonate and add to the noise. I do have access to the crawl space but haven't looked to see what kind of insulating I could do. Might not really bother with that though so I am making due with what I have and accept that nothing is perfect in this situation!
My other question is treating the room. I have a couple large 4'x'6 and 2'x6' rockwool-filled sound panels that I plan to hang from the ceiling and walls of my room in addition to rockwool bass traps that will go in all the corners. How should I go about decoupling the drums and bass cab from the floor so that it's as low impact to the bar below as possible? My goal here is just to minimize as complete reduction impossibly out of scope. The floors are painted hardwood. Would you suggest building a riser for the drums and bass cab? If so, what would be the most effective construction?
Here's what I had in mind for the layout of the room. What do you think?
How would you lay out these instruments:
Upright piano
M3 organ/leslie
Guitar amps
drumset
Bass rig
I think I've been advised that the drums and bass shouldn't be in the corners so...
I'm currently in the process of emptying the place out and doing the construction aspects that need doing. Eventually I'll get to focus on the room setup but I want to start planning now. Do any of you have ideas to point me in the right direction? Thank you for reading!
-T
I have a big project I'm undertaking this year. I am a singer/songwriter/guitarist and I'm shaking up my whole life, moving out of a long term relationship and into a new home and life for the next few years. I stumbled across a bar here in Seattle located in an old building that used to be a small lumber mill, perhaps. Two stories. I asked the bartender about the space above and he said it was currently unused and in need of remodel. Fortunately, that's exactly what I do for a living and we have made a good deal for me to move in and remodel the upstairs. This upstairs space, in addition to a bedroom, kitchen, and bath, has two 16' x 13' rooms side by side at the front of the unit. My band will set up in one of them. I am trying to decided which room to set up in and how to go about minimizing the noise transfer down to the bar below during their business hours.
Here's the thing, imagine the length of the rectangular building divided in half and at the front there is a roughly 13'x16' room on either side: the ceiling height in the bar below one of these side-by-side 16' x 13' rooms is probably 14' or 15' tall. The other half of the bar's ceiling is only 8' or 9', located underneath my second 16' x 13' room. This is because there is a large 5'-6' drop ceiling above the bar and a crawl space where mechanical, ventilation, etc. are located. So one of my questions is whether I should put my band in the room over the crawl space or in the room with a thin floor over the taller ceiling in the bar below. Like so:
I'd assume the drop ceiling would at least help with reducing the noise bleed into the bar below but part of me also wonders if that crawlspace might actually resonate and add to the noise. I do have access to the crawl space but haven't looked to see what kind of insulating I could do. Might not really bother with that though so I am making due with what I have and accept that nothing is perfect in this situation!
My other question is treating the room. I have a couple large 4'x'6 and 2'x6' rockwool-filled sound panels that I plan to hang from the ceiling and walls of my room in addition to rockwool bass traps that will go in all the corners. How should I go about decoupling the drums and bass cab from the floor so that it's as low impact to the bar below as possible? My goal here is just to minimize as complete reduction impossibly out of scope. The floors are painted hardwood. Would you suggest building a riser for the drums and bass cab? If so, what would be the most effective construction?
Here's what I had in mind for the layout of the room. What do you think?
How would you lay out these instruments:
Upright piano
M3 organ/leslie
Guitar amps
drumset
Bass rig
I think I've been advised that the drums and bass shouldn't be in the corners so...
I'm currently in the process of emptying the place out and doing the construction aspects that need doing. Eventually I'll get to focus on the room setup but I want to start planning now. Do any of you have ideas to point me in the right direction? Thank you for reading!
-T