Room sound little dull

paokz

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Hello!
Lately i installed some acoustics in my room..So the bass response was better in mixing position because of that, but maybe the absorbers are sucking too much top-end.

my recording sound little dull..You cant have this nice room sound..You cant sing without the microphone..But even with the microphone the sound is very dry!

My room dimention is 3m to 3m and 3.5 height..Its small room
From the beggining before the acoustics it didnt have this nice sound
I attach some fotos

Its the mix position..where is see the spekers and the screen..Right are the thick velvet curtains
Behind me are the panels on the wall..And bass traps made from rockwool and fabic
Left from me is the door and a panel
In the floor two carpets..The first is not too thick and the other has somehow its not like the norma carpets
And in the ceiling nothing
Could you help me plz?..I wanna sing but i cant cause its somehow cleustophovic..somehow its suck all the high frequencies
 

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It looks like you have put up a bunch of foam on all the walls (are any of those panels rockwool?) Foam will absorb some of the highs, but none of the low-mids or lows, leaving you with boxy sound and uncontrolled bass issues (which are not so much a problem if you're only tracking vocals, but can be a problem when mixing).
On top of that, your room is almost a perfect cube, which is bad due to standing wave nodes. Get rid of some/all of the foam and build/buy some 4" thick (minimum) rockwool bass traps.
 
Hello!..Thanks for your help!..The basstrapas are rockwool with fabric..The other 3 is acoustic foams..Yep its kind of boxy sound..But if i will take them off it wil not be controlled...Yep im just tracking vocals..I dont care so much about the mixing..But the space in somehow closes my voice..the wall absorbs my voice if yo understand so i cant sing high notes so much..Which should i get rid off?..From which wall..can you tell me?..Thanks again :)
 
I can't tell anything from your photos. Are the bass traps those things with the stripe/checker pattern? Are they 4" thick (they don't look it).
You should be able to sing whatever notes you want, if you're close to the mic, it will pick it up. It will sound dead in the room, but then you add reverb and EQ during mixing (which is going to be tough in that room).
 
If the problem is that you don't like the sound when your singing. It might help for your own performance to put on a headphone which gives you back some of your voice with a little reverb. It can be pretty unsettling to make music in a room that dampens all your high frequencies.

Also: mjb gives great advice!
 
I am sounding like this under a blanket but i cant do this in every video
Yeah i know that i can add reverb and all this stuff but the sound im getting in the microphone is not too loud in my headphones sennheizer hd380..Its not too full..Despite the fact that the microphone is se 2200a ii c tha has full body sound..If i will get up in my audiocard audient id 14 it going to red,,But except from this..If you hear in the video..The sound im getting is too dead despite the reverb
 
Fixed the neg rep...

And I agree about placing some verb into the mix while you are singing. It works for some. Maybe for you.

Treating that room is very important to do well. I would not mix in it the way you have it setup, but I also would likely not blame the way it is for the vocal issues. The vocal doesn't sound bad as far as the sound picked up by the mic. I really think it may just be that you need to add a bit of verb so you hear that while recording to place yourself 'in the moment'.
 
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Just shooting from the hip...
If you have more shallow dept mid-high absorption than you need, start exposing selected patches of wall or ceiling, use what ever panels removed to double the depth of the remaining panels.
 
Take down some foam, way too much and it is just attacking the highs. Don't forget that there is carpet in the room as well.

Alan.
 
So what should id ..Which foams should i put out?..Yep the highs are hyped in the sound of the room..Should i remove any carpet?
 
Hello!
Lately i installed some acoustics in my room..So the bass response was better in mixing position because of that, but maybe the absorbers are sucking too much top-end.

my recording sound little dull..You cant have this nice room sound..You cant sing without the microphone..But even with the microphone the sound is very dry!

My room dimention is 3m to 3m and 3.5 height..Its small room
From the beggining before the acoustics it didnt have this nice sound
I attach some fotos ...
Did you like the sound singing in there better before the sound panels? I remember reading it like that.. but now not so sure, maybe not. It can be a little more pleasant and lively not overdoing it with the thin pads.
Any who, with rooms that small there's not a lot of useful ambience to be had. The reflections are going to be pretty tight as is the decay time wise.
Hard to tell with the photos.. is #2 the back wall? Maybe pull the high one and the two L/R panels (keep the center).
Basically shoot for enough thin panels to tame flutter between opposing walls. Stack them in a corner? (more deep/low control, less highs and surface covered.
My take on our small rooms is you go for taming the worst of the nasty room effects, and do the rest best you can with mic placement- and FX for the ambiences.
In your track- the verb is doing the big' depth thing. If it's too dry/close' sounding, you might be looking for some smaller depth and spread' - It sounds pretty good as it is- a little touch of that might be plenty.
 
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