Help Please! Acouistic Treatment for Brighton Recording Studio

[stephentedsmith]

Help Please! Acouistic Treatment for Brighton Recording Studio

I'm after some acoustic room treatment advice for my Recording Studios in Brighton.
At ALT Recording Studios in Brighton our bank vault live room was very difficult to treat. It's square and tiled too so not ideal in its raw state. The problems were bass reflection and high frequency flutter.
I come from the prespective that the purpose of acoustic treatment is to produce the most even reverb decay time across all frequencies, minimising peaks and troughs in the low part of the frequency spectrum and also flutter echoes in the higher part of the frequency spectrum.

We've used Auralex tiles, traps and reflection and BASF ceiling tiles. My problem is we don't want a completely dead and dry room but also don't want any flutter echoes. Is this a trade off or is there anything I can do for a balance.

We've a few recording studio pictures on our website.

Any tips would be appreciated

Stephen Smith
ALT Recording Studios Brighton

www.altrecordingstudios.com

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

help please?

ummm, let me get this straight. I looked at the link. Are you the owner of this studio? Why are you asking this on a "home recording" studio building forum? From the looks of your site, equipment list, clients, projects, studios...either this is:

1. A joke.
2. A put on.
3. You are not the owner.
4. The site is not real.
5. Your bored.
6. Your broke.
7. Or your at a complete loss.

I'd submit....if you can afford a Digidesign setup, and own that studio, you can afford a real acoustician.

 

[mikeeb]

Maybe some people just prefer as much advice as they can get. I do my best to read until my eyes bleed on this website, slutz, and a bunch other. If I owned a commerical studio, I would understand that plenty of my purchases were out of trust of the members word on this board. Also, a lot of home recording guys are also DIY enthusists. Maybe this guy is just looking for a cheaper way to get this done. Anyways guy, what is your budget and what are your rooms specs. I too worry about deadening my room too much with Auralex, so I am using it sparingly. (Except in vocal booths) If you are looking for great quality and look, but with a larger price tag, check out anything by Ethan Winer such as real traps or w.e. If you are looking for a cheaper alternative check out GIK panels and 244 bass traps. They may not look as nice, but GIK does a hell of a job. I am going to drop 1000 at least on some stuff soon. If you want an even cheaper alternative, buy some OC 703 or 705 (depending on your budget thickness may vary) and wrap it in burlap or another fabric. We need to know specifically want your goals are if we are going to give you the best possible advice.

 

[MessianicDreams]

Stephen, I'm not sure this is the correct forum to properly address this issue. Have a look at the studio construction forum on GearSlutz, as well as the www.johnlsayers.com forum. John Sayers is a well known studio designer and acoustician.

I think the level and depth of knowledge required surpasses what most of us would be able to give you!

 

[pandamonk]

help please?

ummm, let me get this straight. I looked at the link. Are you the owner of this studio? Why are you asking this on a "home recording" studio building forum? From the looks of your site, equipment list, clients, projects, studios...either this is:

1. A joke.
2. A put on.
3. You are not the owner.
4. The site is not real.
5. Your bored.
6. Your broke.
7. Or your at a complete loss.

I'd submit....if you can afford a Digidesign setup, and own that studio, you can afford a real acoustician.

Tbh, I was on a college course with a few Digidesign HD setups (with 2 Control|24s and an 02R96), with surround sound, etc. They spent so much money on it and didn't think to have it acoustically designed.

Once I got there I advised them to get even basic acoustic treatment. They didn't listen until finally a new lecturer (who they all respected) came and recommended the same thing. Thing was, he was recommending covering the place with auralex metrofusors. I realised this was a really bad idea, based on what I've learned here, so I was basically suggesting better things to him (including realtraps), which he was recommending to our main lecturers. Funny thing is, the main lecturers wouldn't listen to me directly, haha. It was nuts!

Anyway, they didn't bother in the end up. Trying to save money I think...

 

[stephentedsmith]

Thanks for the tips guys

I sure am the studio owner. We have just undergone a big refurb. Cash flow is a bit short at the moment so for acoustic treatment I was looking for some advice as it's not my specialist subject.

There's no point in having a well equipped recording studio if the acoustics aren't spot on.

I did get someone in to do the acoustics in the end.

Cheers

Stephen Smith
ALT Recording Studios Brighton
www.altrecordingstudios.com

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Funny thing is, the main lecturers wouldn't listen to me directly,

Of course.Their reputations were at stake. Wouldn't want to look silly, especially by a young upstart would we?

There's no point in having a well equipped recording studio if the acoustics aren't spot on.

My point exactly.

I did get someone in to do the acoustics in the end.

I hope it wasn't the "experts" pandamonk mentioned. I'm also glad I didn't waste my time either. Been there, done that.

 

[stephentedsmith]

This is what we ended up doing. Panels from floor to ceiling on the walls covered in different materials for a mix of reflection/absorbtion. At slight angles to avoid reflection.

Auralex tiles, bass traps and sound diffusors, BASF ceiling tiles.

Expensive but sounds great.

Am new to forums but did get some great tips so thanks everyone.

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

From your first post.

We've used Auralex tiles, traps and reflection and BASF ceiling tiles. My problem is we don't want a completely dead and dry room but also don't want any flutter echoes. Is this a trade off or is there anything I can do for a balance.

From your last post.

This is what we ended up doing. Panels from floor to ceiling on the walls covered in different materials for a mix of reflection/absorbtion. At slight angles to avoid reflection.

Auralex tiles, bass traps and sound diffusors, BASF ceiling tiles.

Expensive but sounds great.

ummmm...I don't get it. You first said ..." My PROBLEM is.... we don't want a completely dead and dry room but also don't want any flutter echoes.

which makes it appear as though your room became completely dead and dry, but it took care of the flutter echos, and you were looking for something to "liven" up a dead sounding room. And then you said

This is what we ended up doing. Panels from floor to ceiling on the walls covered in different materials for a mix of reflection/absorbtion. At slight angles to avoid reflection.

and THEN listed the same products....

Auralex tiles, bass traps and sound diffusors, BASF ceiling tiles.

And then said you had someone do it.

I did get someone in to do the acoustics in the end.

er...do what, when????
you list the same products after using "someone" and NOW it sounds great ....WTF????

Are you on druigs or something? Or just confused.