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    As long as there's been music releases, fans have been accusing their favorite artists of selling out. Sad really, all those poor artists work their way out of obscurity to get a recording budget to try to improve their sound and the fans go right for the jugular. "It's too polished!", "I like their old stuff better!" etc... We've all done it tons of times.

    What about you fair listener? Ever loved an artist and then they put out something you just can't abide by? Did you lose interest in the artist? Ever write off an album and then go back years later and realize it was really pretty good? Tell me yours and I'll tell you mine. Grim, you must have something.....

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    I have artists that I like some earlier work better than later.
    Steve Miller Band is a great example. His early albums were amazing but around 'The Joker' and "Big ol' Jet Airliner' I lost interest.

    However ...... I don't remember ever even so much as thinking that he had sold out or thinking that about anyone else either. I just didn't like his later stuff much.

    But, in general if I like someone I like everything they do ..... I'm always interested in how artists change and grow into different creatures.
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    Well, my favourite artist was Michael Jackson, he has never actually done something that I wasn't proud of. RIP Michael Jackson, the king of pop!
    Also: Humans change, so I can't expect people to say the same "old" people they were 10 years from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. Bob View Post
    But, in general if I like someone I like everything they do ..... I'm always interested in how artists change and grow into different creatures.
    Yeah I'm interested in that too, but I'm like the exact opposite. I'm very "no one bats a thousand". I love the Beatles, but I think even they had some clunkers. Lots of times an artists changes to a style I already like for one album and that album will be the only one I listen to by that artist. I just kinda have certain qualities in music I respond to. I understand it's a subjective thing, but I naturally like some songs more than others regardless of the band.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. Bob View Post
    I have artists that I like some earlier work better than later.
    Steve Miller Band is a great example. His early albums were amazing but around 'The Joker' and "Big ol' Jet Airliner' I lost interest.

    However ...... I don't remember ever even so much as thinking that he had sold out or thinking that about anyone else either. I just didn't like his later stuff much.
    I've heard that his late 60s records are really good but haven't gotten around to checking them out....he was kind of a San Francisco psychedelic guy then wasn't he? I keep hearing the early Bob Seger System albums like Noah are really good too, but it's hard for me to get motivated to check out a Bob Seger album, knowing what we know about what he eventually became.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenVocal View Post
    Well, my favourite artist was Michael Jackson, he has never actually done something that I wasn't proud of. RIP Michael Jackson, the king of pop!
    Also: Humans change, so I can't expect people to say the same "old" people they were 10 years from now.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenVocal View Post
    Well, my favourite artist was Michael Jackson, he has never actually done something that I wasn't proud of. RIP Michael Jackson, the king of pop!
    Also: Humans change, so I can't expect people to say the same "old" people they were 10 years from now.
    I hated Thriller at the time (I was like 9), but years later I was able to say "Yeah, that was a decent bunch of songs for it's time". To be honest though I never gave anything after that much of a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny deep View Post
    I can think of a few things he did you shouldn't be proud of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny deep View Post
    I can think of a few things he did you shouldn't be proud of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat_fleet View Post
    I've heard that his late 60s records are really good but haven't gotten around to checking them out....he was kind of a San Francisco psychedelic guy then wasn't he?
    yeah ..... his early stuff was totally different than Joker and beyond.
    They actually varied a lot in styles but I like 'em all. Number 5 is killer .... Brave New World, and Children of the Future are pretty psychedelic ... Sailor gets into more regular songs with still a bit of psychedelicism ...... Your Saving Grace is still in that 60's vibe but with pretty sophisticated sound and harmony and Journey From Eden is just an amazing album to me.
    And he had a live album ..... ummmmm ...... Rock Love I think. It was a very cool live-blues album.
    You know Boz Scaggs was with him back then?
    I was WAY into Steve Miller for a long while

    But I agree with the idea that I'll like some of an artist's work way more than others.
    But generally if I like 'em I'll like something about most of their work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny deep View Post
    I can think of a few things he did you shouldn't be proud of.
    they've never presented a convincing case to me that he actually DID anything.
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