Uladine
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I am currently in the process of finding a good tone for my guitar on a metal project. When I listen to songs by Meshuggah, Nevermore, and Soilwork I notice that there is something about the guitar tone that makes me drool. I know they all tune really low, but I don't think that is what I'm drooling over. I have my guitar setup to play in B, which is about as low as I want to go. I also realize theres no way to get the exact same tone as them of course, and I know that they used different equipment and all of that.
But upon studying a couple soilwork songs today, I think I realized what it is that I'm after. I think its the sound of the actual speaker cab itself blended in with the speaker signal. Theres something about the tone that reminds me of crawling behind a 4X12 cab looking for a power outlet while someone is playing through it at high volume. Of course this sound isn't too useful by itself, but blended in with the 57 I have on one of the speakers it just might get me closer to what I'm after.
Now that I just wrote a bunch of probably unnecessary stuff, its time for my actual question. What do I need to be aware of when miking the back/side of a 4x12 in terms of phase issues or any other possible problematic areas. For my rig I'm using a POD pro (speaker emulation disabled) into a power amp into a marshall 1960A 4x12 cab. I pretty much have the tone how I like it at the amp, and I'm mainly messing with mic techniques now. At my disposal are
1 sm-57
1 AT 4033/LE
2 C3000b's
2 cheap ass nady kick mics (which actually sound pretty good on a bass amp)
2 sm-58s
The mics are going into a mackie 24.4 VLZ mixer with XDR preamps, then into a sonar equipped PC. I plan on keeping all of the mic signals on seperate tracks so I can mess with the levels of each mic later. I'm also trying to record each mic with no EQ after the amp, as I've discovered that mic placement and the blending of different mic characters is probably better EQ than any electronic device on the market.
Sorry for babbling on so much, I've missed this place. Please forgive me.
But upon studying a couple soilwork songs today, I think I realized what it is that I'm after. I think its the sound of the actual speaker cab itself blended in with the speaker signal. Theres something about the tone that reminds me of crawling behind a 4X12 cab looking for a power outlet while someone is playing through it at high volume. Of course this sound isn't too useful by itself, but blended in with the 57 I have on one of the speakers it just might get me closer to what I'm after.
Now that I just wrote a bunch of probably unnecessary stuff, its time for my actual question. What do I need to be aware of when miking the back/side of a 4x12 in terms of phase issues or any other possible problematic areas. For my rig I'm using a POD pro (speaker emulation disabled) into a power amp into a marshall 1960A 4x12 cab. I pretty much have the tone how I like it at the amp, and I'm mainly messing with mic techniques now. At my disposal are
1 sm-57
1 AT 4033/LE
2 C3000b's
2 cheap ass nady kick mics (which actually sound pretty good on a bass amp)
2 sm-58s
The mics are going into a mackie 24.4 VLZ mixer with XDR preamps, then into a sonar equipped PC. I plan on keeping all of the mic signals on seperate tracks so I can mess with the levels of each mic later. I'm also trying to record each mic with no EQ after the amp, as I've discovered that mic placement and the blending of different mic characters is probably better EQ than any electronic device on the market.
Sorry for babbling on so much, I've missed this place. Please forgive me.