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    Keeping Snare Bleed out of Kick Mic

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    I recently got a drum set for the studio and have been experimenting with mic placement.

    I've taken the resonant head off the kick and placed a D112 inside the shell, about 3" away from where the beater hits the head, pointed slightly off axis.

    I'm getting some snare bleed into the D112. I've tried gating the D112 and using EQ, but still get too much bleed. It's not real loud, but enough so that when mixed in with the other mics it makes the snare sound thin. I've tried reversing the phase on the kick mic but that just makes the snare sound mushy.

    Maybe it's the UAD gate I'm using...don't know...maybe there are better ones.

    Any ideas? Would putting some sort of baffle between the snare and kick drum work?

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    I use the digirack expander gates & they work well for me................I would suggest that moving the mic away from the beater might be an idea also, over to the side a bit maybe.................away from the snare

    in my experience it is almost impossible to remove bleed due to the nature of a drumkit. In order to punch the whole thing up & give more seperation try further experiments with your gates.......................if it makes you feel any better it took quite a while for me to finally feel at one with the gate as it can be a real mindfuck if treated wrong

    I've never baffled any part of my kit to try & remove bleed BUT that's not to say some of the many threadsters havn't either
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    Yes, like Slidey said, move the beater away. You'll probably get more low as a bonus by giving the air some time to hit the mic (probably not the most technical reason, but it will sound better

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    Great info; thanks guys.

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    did you try pading the mic thats near the beater

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    Quote Originally Posted by big country
    did you try pading the mic thats near the beater
    I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

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    The drummer is hitting the snare really hard and the kick really quiet. Tell him to stop.

    Moving the mic back will help because it puts the shell of the kick between the mic and the snare.

    You might also be using too much compression on the kick.

    Another thing to try is put the front head back in the kick, put a hole in it and stick the mic just inside the hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big country
    did you try pading the mic thats near the beater
    D112 doesn't have a pad
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    A pad won't help bleed. It just turns down the volume of the whole thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farview
    The drummer is hitting the snare really hard and the kick really quiet. Tell him to stop.

    Moving the mic back will help because it puts the shell of the kick between the mic and the snare.

    You might also be using too much compression on the kick.

    Another thing to try is put the front head back in the kick, put a hole in it and stick the mic just inside the hole.
    I'm the one playing the drums, and your right, I was smacking the snare really hard and hitting the kick really wimpy. That's what happens when you put a guitarist behing a drum set.

    I moved the mic back and evened out my hits; it sounds much better now.

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