I test out a device which simulates the Beatles EMI RED console
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miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
Thing is...there isn't any singular "Beatles guitar" sound that they always had on everything.
Maybe if you break things down into the various periods they went through as their styles evolved...but even there they had some variation, and IMO, it's not something that really requires a huge amount of effort and specific vintage gear or specialty boxes.
It's just tones...and once you identify them, a lot of gear can be dialed in to get you there.
I think WAY too much is made of the need to use the same "vintage" gear (or same any gear) in order to mimic a sound.
Also...just how identical is it or does it really need to be?
IMO... it's always going to be more about capturing the essence rather than dialing in the exact same thing with the same gear...and much of that essence is more about other things than just the gear.
Granted, having the exact same gear might make it easier/quicker...but again, I think it's just about identifying the tones and then dialing them in, and there's probably a lot of ways to get there.
And of course...as you found out...it's a lot to do with the players.
They tend to always sound like themselves, no matter what gear they use.
Maybe if you break things down into the various periods they went through as their styles evolved...but even there they had some variation, and IMO, it's not something that really requires a huge amount of effort and specific vintage gear or specialty boxes.
It's just tones...and once you identify them, a lot of gear can be dialed in to get you there.
I think WAY too much is made of the need to use the same "vintage" gear (or same any gear) in order to mimic a sound.
Also...just how identical is it or does it really need to be?
IMO... it's always going to be more about capturing the essence rather than dialing in the exact same thing with the same gear...and much of that essence is more about other things than just the gear.
Granted, having the exact same gear might make it easier/quicker...but again, I think it's just about identifying the tones and then dialing them in, and there's probably a lot of ways to get there.
And of course...as you found out...it's a lot to do with the players.
They tend to always sound like themselves, no matter what gear they use.
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bouldersoundguy
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Mickster
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and of course...as you found out...it's a lot to do with the players.
They tend to always sound like themselves, no matter what gear they use.
baddabing !!!
CoolCat
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great vid, Day Tripper that was the better guitar tones of their stuff imo.
i used to have bootlegs of that one with take 1 through 4 or something, interesting.
he sure got that sound right in the video..
epiphone type guitar and the redd pedal into the Fender Bassman (Bandmaster). He mentions transformers too to duplicate the EMI studio. he went really deep into the cables, guitar and caps etc.. fun to watch video.
yeah I dont know if one needs the vintage gear , vintage cables, vintage caps and pots on the guitar....but the comment on going through a bunch of transformers might help and going vintage doesnt hurt.
Day Tripper...crazy considering the Beatles would record singles so quickly and the engineers mixed it very quickly and it went upstairs for the mastering and out for the pressing plants quickly is kind of a cool time era in the recording world. talking days or a couple weeks and it was out and on the radio.
Day Tripper would have been the Norman Smith-Engineer era, pre Geoff Emerick-Revolver Engineer right?
but still great tones even today...epiphone into a tube fender amp...add the Redd pedal for a little grit?
i used to have bootlegs of that one with take 1 through 4 or something, interesting.
he sure got that sound right in the video..
epiphone type guitar and the redd pedal into the Fender Bassman (Bandmaster). He mentions transformers too to duplicate the EMI studio. he went really deep into the cables, guitar and caps etc.. fun to watch video.
yeah I dont know if one needs the vintage gear , vintage cables, vintage caps and pots on the guitar....but the comment on going through a bunch of transformers might help and going vintage doesnt hurt.
Day Tripper...crazy considering the Beatles would record singles so quickly and the engineers mixed it very quickly and it went upstairs for the mastering and out for the pressing plants quickly is kind of a cool time era in the recording world. talking days or a couple weeks and it was out and on the radio.
Day Tripper would have been the Norman Smith-Engineer era, pre Geoff Emerick-Revolver Engineer right?
but still great tones even today...epiphone into a tube fender amp...add the Redd pedal for a little grit?
CoolCat
Well-known member
what was the gear? what was the tune?
I think Revolver was more SG, Day Tripper the Epiphones right..and per that video a Fender Bassman.
BroKen_H
Re-member
Despite the criticisms, I thoroughly enjoyed the video. Never a fan of the Beatles :ducks thrown objects: but I've always at least found them interesting. Agree that Sir Paul could come up with some great bass tones in a day and age where there were very few variables in bass tone...
It is obvious that you are passionate about getting tones as close as possible. It is also obvious that the Beatles was not your first rodeo...
I think you did the tones justice, even if your playing isn't George or John's.
It is obvious that you are passionate about getting tones as close as possible. It is also obvious that the Beatles was not your first rodeo...
I think you did the tones justice, even if your playing isn't George or John's.
garww
New member
The second half of the '60s I had the import with dearmond type and the sg special on the wollensak and twin reverb. After that it was the single PU Casino and the transition 6g2 princeton. But we learned from the way they all jumped around on gear, it wasn't that important.
I dunno if I was ever hot to learn a Beatles song, but the tripper into was easy enough for anybody to fall into when they heard it. Some will have better luck squeezing a tone out of a PU, than others : )
I dunno if I was ever hot to learn a Beatles song, but the tripper into was easy enough for anybody to fall into when they heard it. Some will have better luck squeezing a tone out of a PU, than others : )