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    So let's pretend I'm playing drums on Led Zeppelin's reunion album. We're in the $10,000 a day studio, they've got the best of everything. The kits all mic'd up and there's an SM57 (yes they have 57s in this studio) on the snare. This thing's running through a $3000 preamp, Apogee converters, the best of the best into Pro Tools or whatever.

    When we play back the snare track (of course this being my thread the drumming is Godlike and amazing) what would it sound like? Will it actually sound like someone hitting a snare drum, or would it just be that silly popping noise I get in my room at home that I have to EQ and compress the bejesus out of just to get something that vaguely resembles what a snare actually sounds like?

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    Who will be playing drums on this Led Zeppelin's reunion album?
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    I'm not sure what you're asking, Bull. Are you asking whether it's possible to get a good snare sound with a 57?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timboZ View Post
    Who will be playing drums on this Led Zeppelin's reunion album?
    Well this is my thread, so that would have to be me

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMI View Post
    I'm not sure what you're asking, Bull. Are you asking whether it's possible to get a good snare sound with a 57?

    What I'm asking is can the big guys get a sound from a 57 that could be used as is with little or no EQ or compression ?

    The reason I ask is that the sound I get from a 57 on my snare doesn't begin to sound like a snare until I've processed the crap out of it. I'm wondering if this is due to poor micing technique, or something lacking in the recording chain

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    What have you done to the snare to make it record ready? I use a 57 on our snare and it sounds like a great snare. And then I EQ to taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulls Hit View Post
    So let's pretend I'm playing drums on Led Zeppelin's reunion album. We're in the $10,000 a day studio, they've got the best of everything. The kits all mic'd up and there's an SM57 (yes they have 57s in this studio) on the snare. This thing's running through a $3000 preamp, Apogee converters, the best of the best into Pro Tools or whatever.

    When we play back the snare track (of course this being my thread the drumming is Godlike and amazing) what would it sound like? Will it actually sound like someone hitting a snare drum, or would it just be that silly popping noise I get in my room at home that I have to EQ and compress the bejesus out of just to get something that vaguely resembles what a snare actually sounds like?
    If like you say, everything is set up perfect with perfect playing and perfect gear, then you could stick a $10 mic on the snare and it would sound good.
    The source is the most important thing (the snare in this case) then its the player, then the gear.

    Eck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulls Hit View Post
    What I'm asking is can the big guys get a sound from a 57 that could be used as is with little or no EQ or compression ?

    The reason I ask is that the sound I get from a 57 on my snare doesn't begin to sound like a snare until I've processed the crap out of it. I'm wondering if this is due to poor micing technique, or something lacking in the recording chain
    I can pretty much guarantee the problem is your snare.
    Might be a cheap crappy snare, might have old skins on it, might not be tuned properly, might be a loose snare rattle, or could be all of these factors.

    Eck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulls Hit View Post
    When we play back the snare track (of course this being my thread the drumming is Godlike and amazing) what would it sound like? Will it actually sound like someone hitting a snare drum, or would it just be that silly popping noise I get in my room at home that I have to EQ and compress the bejesus out of just to get something that vaguely resembles what a snare actually sounds like?
    Assuming that the snare itself sounds 'godlike'...

    Overhead and room mics are at least as important as the close mic for a snare sound. So the nice studio room will probably beat your home studio in that respect. The close mic SM57 may sound similar both places, but the rooms will probably be completely different. The big studio will probably not leave the SM57 unprocessed either, so don't feel bad that you have to process it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulls Hit View Post
    ... that silly popping noise I get in my room at home that I have to EQ and compress the bejesus out of just to get something that vaguely resembles what a snare actually sounds like?
    Sounds like a position problem. Are you up on the head? How about backing it off, down into the side, across the rim, etc?
    It's a whole 'nother animal over there.
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