Analogue studio - general advice

Yes I agree with that but in initial cost terms at least . I can remember paying 500 for even a fostex 160 casette 4 track then . Semi pro reel to reels were several thousand . Yes that's one reason I'd not consider it .old hardware going wrong and finding an expensive specialist . Unless you're geared to it seriously analogue basically is prohibitive to the average user .that's why I gave up on it
 
maxman65 said:
Too old to change . All they needed to do was make a more pro version of the dp008ex and that would be enough . 8 tracks is plenty and keeps it simple and focused Yes I agree with the mic upgrade
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Hey maxman65.........do you have any idea how many of us here thought we were too old to change???? What's the real reason? You certainly seem smart enough to give it a go..........and you're in the right place for cutting your learning curve WAY DOWN time wise. We're here for you. Don't stand only on principal. And as for your 8 tracks is enough assertion..........yup it is for some things........not many....but some. But trust us.......you're going to dislike the fact that the number of effects you can have is very limited.........your editing capabilities will be tedious and time consuming.......along many other stand alone issues. Just wondering what your biggest worry is about a DAW. Just asking is all.
 
I'm spending a lot of time in a camper where suprisingly reflections and such seem very neutral . However space is limited as is power (solar plus inverter ) .I fancied the dp008ex as a way to go . I feel quality source intruments are very important and I'm hoping I can get good results still with a simple set up. I didn't want to get too distracted with too much technicality not least because I'm not all that technical . There is an argument that having less keeps you more focused on getting the best with what you have (to a point ) . I'd also have to consider more cost .I rather see what a decent condenser can give me with he existing machine . If i think about reinventing the recording medium ill be starting from the ground up again which is distracting .and I'm not yet convinced that I can't do better with what I already have
 
I've heard you make that.......less is better because it forces you to do better with what you have..........argument before. Less is less.......limited is limited.....bottom line. I hear you say......I'm not technical.......ok......but you seem like a guy with more ability than you think. I understand your living situation and can see where your logic comes from. As time goes by........and as your situation changes.......all I want to say is.......don't automatically discount going to a DAW.
 
Mickster said:
Hey maxman65.........do you have any idea how many of us here thought we were too old to change???? What's the real reason? You certainly seem smart enough to give it a go..........and you're in the right place for cutting your learning curve WAY DOWN time wise. We're here for you. Don't stand only on principal. And as for your 8 tracks is enough assertion..........yup it is for some things........not many....but some. But trust us.......you're going to dislike the fact that the number of effects you can have is very limited.........your editing capabilities will be tedious and time consuming.......along many other stand alone issues. Just wondering what your biggest worry is about a DAW. Just asking is all.
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+1 Micks. I am 72 (gots t' blagg another driving license this year!) and NO ONE is a bigger pc numpty than I. There is a million things I cannot do, shoot! I have trouble with emails sometimes and most of the doings of this and other forums are a complete mystery to me.

But! "We" have a bloody go! Ok, you think digital is "sterile" and analogue "warm"? Technically that is bollox but people have their impressions. I 'grew up' with tape and was only too aware of its limitations, so were my 'heros' at magazines like Studio Sound and Hi-Fi News. Maybe ok for 'pop' and rock but trying to capture the majesty of a concert grand and especially choral works and the distortions were hard to limit. Three % thd on a rock guitar might be acceptable but it starts to grate on the last mvmt of Beet's 9th. EVERY 'serious' tape machine maker back then was trying to build "a better mousetrap"! So too were the tape formulation guys. It is a paradox that JUST as digital control (of bias, transport etc) was beginning to make tape much better (we might have scienced the ***t out of wow and flutter!) Digital recording swept all before it. I had a Denon dual loop capstan cassette machine with (computer) auto bias and EQ tape setup, Dolby B and HX. With TDK SA that gave CD a VERY close run for its money!

Go'on, give digital a fair go sport!

Dave.
 
Yes I wouldn't discount it altogether . I think what happened was people like tascam saw a market for portable "sketchpads" where the computer largely took over multi tracking . Granted they make more serious "traditional" digital multi tracks in say 24 track. I just felt it was a great shame there wasn't more options at 8 track. It's all relative . Today 8 track seems like nothing but in reality it's actually quite a lot . It's double what the UK had in 1967 and look at the sort of albums coming out then . Also consider I'm a solo item I'm not even a band .I feel it's about re calibrating perspective . If youre an old woman walking 100 miles at the side of a highway and she gets in a car for the first time in her life doing 40mph her perspective is that she's racing into the future .meanwhile the car passing that doing 100mph wonders what car like that is even doing on the road . It's all relative . Where does it end
 
maxman65 said:
Yes I wouldn't discount it altogether . I think what happened was people like tascam saw a market for portable "sketchpads" where the computer largely took over multi tracking . Granted they make more serious "traditional" digital multi tracks in say 24 track. I just felt it was a great shame there wasn't more options at 8 track. It's all relative . Today 8 track seems like nothing but in reality it's actually quite a lot . It's double what the UK had in 1967 and look at the sort of albums coming out then . Also consider I'm a solo item I'm not even a band .I feel it's about re calibrating perspective . If youre an old woman walking 100 miles at the side of a highway and she gets in a car for the first time in her life doing 40mph her perspective is that she's racing into the future .meanwhile the car passing that doing 100mph wonders what car like that is even doing on the road . It's all relative . Where does it end
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So.........do you think that.....if back in 1967......engineers , musicians and producers would have looked at what we have today and said........NAW......not for me??
 
It kept them focused .With the advent of 4 track it opened up creative possibility in the studio that wasn't previously available . Sergeant pepper for example was partly due to what became possible technologically it opened up creative doors . With 64 track it's probably difficult to find albums quite that inventive . I agree the advent of technology has opened up possibilities to all. But where's the margin in 128 track .technology can develop a momentum of its own where creativity itself has diminishing use for it .
 
maxman65 said:
It kept them focused .With the advent of 4 track it opened up creative possibility in the studio that wasn't previously available . Sergeant pepper for example was partly due to what became possible technologically it opened up creative doors . With 64 track it's probably difficult to find albums quite that inventive . I agree the advent of technology has opened up possibilities to all. But where's the margin in 128 track .technology can develop a momentum of its own where creativity itself has diminishing use for it .
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I think you might be making some broad assumptions there sir.......and a few assertions that might be convenient........even partially true.......but mostly convenient for you to keep avoiding any consideration of a DAW. Just my 2 cents.
 
In another 50 years we'll be heads in a jar plugged in electrically to a 1000 track multi track complaining about some eq issues on track 842. They'll look back at 128 track computers from the dark ages in abject disbelieve .where does it end ?
 
Who cares where it ends? We're here now and it has never been better or easier to record your music.
 
Somewhere in this thread there used to be a question .an overload of sugar melted the wires in my brain . No idea what it was anymore
 
Haha! It got lost on the first page of this thread. It went downhill from the first post and it's deceptuve title. And it hasn't gotten better since.
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