Let Me Go

[Phrasemaker]

Thanks again Ray, yes the B vox has been a bugger to get right. I have since re taken a fair amount of it again, taking some of it out wider on the second section. I imagine I'll be tinkering with that part for a while as it needs to be as good as I can get it. It was meant to be fairly even left/right but the second part seemed to burrow in the near middle for my liking, I'll get there. Made my day you mentioned the guitar, I got exactly what I wanted with it, and was wondering if it was me deluding myself that it sounded half decent. 24 tracks is very tight for a track like this, I'm seriously considering getting and linking another R24, for such occasions, as I need control of every part of every track in an ideal world, and sitting with it all on the pc is not where I want to be heading. This was simply a fun exercise which got out of hand, now I am determined to get it somewhere near right.

All the best

Tim

Just added another version, hopefully the Bvox is spread better Ray, the second section I took the if in doubt add the 7 year old daughter option.


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[Phrasemaker]

I'm putting this one to bed now, as the latest version I have posted here is pretty much where I want it and I've not got any other advice to work with. I've played it through various systems and aside from maybe attenuating the bottom end a tad it sounds comparable to some of the commercial stuff in my collection, aside from the odd shortcoming vocal wise and maybe my playing style doesn't suit all tastes.

Thanks to those who contributed, really appreciate your time in doing so.

Tim

[robgreen]

I listened to this this morning and thought I'd posted something in the thread. Looks like I didn't though

Thinking back to what I thought I'd posted, the main things were
1. you managed to wrangle a good sound out of the synth pads. I was expecting something really cheesy, but was pleasantly surprised
2. the first section before the song proper kicks in didn't do a great deal for me. I think it's too long and a little without purpose sonically and the song gets much better when it all gets going. That may just be me though.
3. I was ambivalent about the kick. I listened through a couple of times and couldn't make my mind up whether it was a bit loud or sat in the mix fine. I think probably on balance it sounds fine in the final mix.
4. You seem a little lacking in confidence about your vocals, but you shouldn't do - they sound good to me.

...I approached the song with trepidation as I can't stand The Wall (despite much trying to get into it) but it works out well. I think these were all my thoughts from this morning

[Fuccess]

Yes, as robgreen said the intro is a bit too long. Your vocals got some bowie feel to it. I also think the drums are a bit too loud since they stole much of my attention.

[Phrasemaker]

Thanks Rob, The intro is easily altered lengthwise and that's certainly a consideration at the point where I put the track with others and where and how it sits in a compilation, it can allow me overlap of tracks or can be trimmed, I'm pretty open to altering that. I think the kick in light of your pondering and subsequent thoughts may be a touch too imposing, again easily adjusted. I appreciate your taking time to listen and reply, I'm gradually gaining confidence on the vocal front, and appreciate your thoughts.

Fuccess, I take on board your thoughts re the drums and the intro, I'll enjoy the Bowie comment for a while.... certainly again helps with the vocal confidence that I have been lacking. Thank you.

All the best

Tim

[Mr Clean]

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I think this is really good. I don't know how I missed this one before. I can't really add anything advice-wise that hasn't been touched upon already. A song that would sing perfectly well in The Wall.

...I approached the song with trepidation as I can't stand The Wall (despite much trying to get into it)

How can anybody possibly not like The Wall? It's a masterpiece.

[fat_fleet]

Pretty good mix, I think the levels are pretty much there. There's an area from about 3:12 to around 4:00 where an underlying synth falls out and it seems a little bare in comparison to the rest of the song, but that's an arrangement thing and totally your call. And your daughter's a little bit pitchy in a couple places, but all in all a really good sounding song. I listened to the first version, then parts of the second and third and there's no question that the sonics were improved by your revisions.

[Tobe]

I like it, but to be honest the bits without singing are a bit slow and straight up and down. I want it all to rock a bit more.

[Phrasemaker]

Thanks Mr Clean, I appreciate your taking time to listen and reply. I got into the wall quite a bit when I was less grey than now and it had to played on vinyl, to be fair that album and some of Floyd's earlier work influenced me a lot. Thank you.

fat_fleet, Thanks for your detailed listen and for raising the points you mention. I wasn't sure about the area you mention as yes, the synth does fall away and as I have a spare track available, I will look at that area at the weekend and try adding to it and make a decision then. I dropped my daughter in at the deep end with the track, literally stuck cans on her head and looped the section to see how young vocals would contribute to the overall sound I was after at that point. I'll get her in front of the mic when I tinker as above, as she can hold a note and I might as well get it right, in light of the positive feedback I've had re: this track, considering it began as a throwaway exercise that got out of hand. I am considering writing additional tracks to tag on to this one with a bigger theme, something to have on the back burner. I'm really chuffed you noticed the progression the overall sound of the mix, I spent a fair bit of time on it.

Thanks for your thoughts Tobe, something else for me to ponder, I am thinking of continuing this and having it form part of a bigger whole, at that point I will be able to consider how this track works in a bigger context. Thank you!

Many thanks

Tim

[rayc]

The Wall.
I've enjoyed PF since way back - was in h/school from 1970 so was "of the age"/
I stopped listening at the wall. It was too repetitive, indulgent and obviously the result of grievances built up as a juvenile that were spewed out as a ruminating adult.
I was given a CD copy about 10 years ago so tried to get into it but failed. It's part of my music collection but consigned to that section (mostly gifts & purchases based on music mag reviews) that collects dust.
Mind you I found parts of WYWHere tiresome as well.