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    I am trying to purchase a small mixer for my home studio. I am doing digital recording...and have never before used an external mixer.

    I have narrowed my choices betweeen a Behringer MX 1804x, or a Mackie CFX series.

    At this point I am not to concerned with number of inputs, outputs, returns, etc. The comparison I am looking for, is wich brand is least noisiest and has better sound quality. Both of these models also contain onboard signal processing wich is also cool...anyone like one over the other for this reason????

    Like I mentioned before, I have never used an external mixer before, and I am looking for low noise, and good overall quality....I am also not opposed to any other brands you guys have tried any liked in the >$500 range.....

    Thanks for your advice,


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    my tascam tmd-1000 is so quiet I cant even tell that its on. and its digital, so your converters are set away from your noisy (rf speaking) computer... and so on. It also has onboard effects, including dynamics.

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    Hello.I can tell you from personal experience that Behringer makes some great sounding stuff(awesome prices too).I've never tried a Mackie board though,but I've heard allot of people have been unhappy with them.
    My advice-trust your ears.If you have a guitar center or a local music store close go check em out and see what sounds the best to you.

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    I have two questions up concerning similar topics to yours, although I am shopping for a much larger mixer. However I also needed a small mixer, and I recently bought a Behringer MX802A. It may be just what you are looking for - 8 inputs (4 mono 1/4 or XLR, 2 stereo 1/4), Main stereo out, plus seperate control room (monitor), phone, and 2 track outs. It also has 2 effects sends (one pre one post) and three band eq all in a box about 10" x 12". It seems very quiet although I really have not used it much yet. I got it from Guitar Center for $119 - quite a deal I thought. They make one model smaller (6 channels) for about $80 and of course several larger mixers.

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    I think I am leaning towards the Behringer...Ive hear good things about them for the most part, and Ive hear a lot of negatives about Mackie overal on this BBS.

    I checked AMS online and then have the MX1804x listed for $339.99 -5% for online orders...sounds like a good price to me......now it seems like the problem is goint ot be to find one of these suckers......

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    I think I am leaning towards the Behringer...Ive hear good things about them for the most part, and Ive hear a lot of negatives about Mackie overal on this BBS.

    I checked AMS online and then have the MX1804x listed for $339.99 -5% for online orders...sounds like a good price to me......now it seems like the problem is going to be to find one of these suckers......

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    Don't want to start something here, but I've read all the same "trash the mackie" junk as well. Do a search on an expired discussion ("Mackie sucks- so what doesn't") and you'll see what I mean.

    Take the brand loyalty you find here with a grain of salt; I tried to listen for experience and ditch the ego trips. And what I learned was that Mackie doesn't "suck" at all; it placed its products in their respective market niches, that's all. Most who responded seemed to feel it edged slightly ahead of Behringer (compare the prices and that shouldn't be startling) but did not produce an "ultimate" studio system in the under $1,000 range. Name something that does!

    One or two members with strong pro studio background preferred the Soundcraft products. Soundcraft has a budget line (Sprint) that looks really nice and seems to have very good specs. Watch out for non-U.S. vendors, though; you won't get a warranty worth anything.

    The Mackie CFX is not a studio mixer. It is a live perfomance mixer. It will not be as quiet, but it will be more affordable and more capable than its studio bretheren.

    I bought a Tascam TM D1000 for home digital recording and was impressed with its specs, but I found that digital audio was a tough read for me (it comes with three manuals and a video tutorial) and I also learned that it is positively the last mixer on earth I would ever want in a live performance situation, because of a poorly designed user interface. It drove me nuts. But it cost $500 and really rocks as a recording mixer. I want something more intuitive for occasional outside use, and mine had a defect; back it went.

    So after all the dust settled, I bought a Mackie CFX12. Can I hear noise? Yep. Turn up the trim till it clips, turn up the faders past unity, EQ too much and play "twelve year old" with the effects. All kinds of noise.

    Is it quiet? Yep. Do what you need in moderation and the mixer performs very well for the price. And it is intuitive.

    Is it perfect? Nope. But I'm not a pro, and I don't have a big budget. I'm just beginning this project - guitars, mixer, computer (still at the SB Live! value stage) and getting sticker shock at cabling and such.

    When I'm ready for a recording console, the prices will likely have dropped, and maybe someone out there will finally design a digital mixer that I can't tell from analog - except for the signal. But for now, I'll stay with the Mackie.



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    Yeah Treeline I agree with you on what your saying.....Dont think I was just trying to post a trash Mackie Thread...

    That is just what I have read..for the most part..is a lot of people were unhappy with their Mackie's because of Sound Quality. I am also just staring out...and know where in the pro studio range....(do you think I could spend $70,000 on an Oramsonics console??? my first house was cheaper!!!)

    I guess my point was Behringer offered a feature packed mixer for $339.....for the money seemed like the best mixer around......


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    I'll just add one more comment - I am really a self-taught "hacker" hobbiest in my studio skills, and I have put up with shoddy hardware for a long time because I could not afford otherwise. Now that I make more money in my "day" job (basically PC tech support) I have been shopping for better gear. However, the three people I personally know who make a living from their studios all recomend Mackie highly FOR ITS PRICE RANGE. Enough said...

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    Bank for the Buck, Behringer and Mackie are likely right on par with each other. Consider that Mackie is more expensive and there you go... there's your better mixer.

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