gecko zzed
Grumpy Mod
Just browsing over this thread so this is not directed at any one poster..
Having a stubborn attitude will not get you anywhere and by the same token listening to pro ME's telling you that you can't master yourself will get you nowhere.
I think what you need to take from it is that the pro ME's are saying that a guy on his first attempt is not going to get the same results as a 30 year veteran, even if you use his rig. And I think it is pretty obvious that they are right.
Can you beat a pro golfer the first time you play even if you use his clubs ??
Your observation is pretty good, but the thread is four years old, so maybe no-one is listening anymore.