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    I would post the song as you say, but after what I've seen happens, no way. If I wanted a thread full of arguments and half-relevance, I would say so.
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    The whole analogy is flawed because you didn't go into the shop and ask how to make curtains for your specific window.
    If you did, and they handed you details on how they did it, you'd be able to make curtains for that specific window without learning anything about the process, or how to arrive at these conclusions.

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    Meh. I won't bother checking this thread any more.

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    There is a lot of mystique surrounding mastering, but it does not do anything that is essentially different to the things you do when mixing. While there are some mechanical things about mastering (such as fixing the beginnings and endings of tracks), the most critical thing about mastering is to be able to listen to something, identify what is needed to refine it, and then to know what tool you need to use to achieve it.

    The main elements are:
    * dealing with artefacts (i.e. trimming the material and fixing things that shouldn't be there, e.g. a click or a pop)
    * dealing with the acoustic balance (i.e. dealing with frequencies that are too dominant, or not dominant enough)
    * dealing with the dynamics (i.e. working with compression and limiting to draw consistency between a set of tracks, or to increase the presence of an individual track).

    Knowing what settings someone has used on a plug-in for a particular track does not tell you anything about the generality of the process. It tells you what specific thing was done to that track, but not the rationale for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearShift View Post
    Meh. I won't bother checking this thread any more.
    That's very sad. Everyone here is willing to help, indeed, everybody posting on this thread has tried.
    You seem to think that knowing settings on a chain of plugs will lead you to be able to master songs other than the specific track.
    It won't.
    The plug-in settings depend on the track, not on the process.
    The plug-in chain depends on the track not the process.

    Send someone your song, - send it to me - I'll happily spend a little time mastering it the way I would (and that's another variable) and send it back with the settings and chain.

    But it won't show you how to master anything else at all.

    PS. Enjoyed your trip to the curtain shop.
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    I don't know about you guys, but I loved the curtain story! I don't necessarily see the relevance, but a good story is a good story!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireflyva View Post
    I don't know about you guys, but I loved the curtain story! I don't necessarily see the relevance, but a good story is a good story!
    Sadly it was intended to be an analogy. At best it was a poorly constructed parable.
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    ...and the moral of the story is?

    Quote Originally Posted by GearShift View Post
    ...I told her what size I needed, but she told me that no curtains would fit every window.
    But did you wait long enough for anybody to go out of business so they could give you the best looking curtains for free?

    I think you may have the wrong forum.

    Staff & manager? I'm not sure who that is. It's not me! I've got no time for such..

    Perhaps the moral of the story is -- no curtains would fit every window.

    p.s. Now I'm curious. How BIG is your window?

    I mean, where is this "rock" track??

    I need to find out if I have a frame to fit the window before we hang the curtains.

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    I just have someone come in and install new windows to fit the curtains I buy off the shelf. First of all, I don't know anything about window installation and not inclined to learn, and it seems easier because I'm sure not going to learn how to run a sewing a machine. That's women's work!
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