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    I limit/normalize at the final step to -.1db , and release a lot of music online via MP3 and the original WAVs. No fidelity issues. Are you sure your process is correct and that the final file is actually peaking where you tell it? For example, I open the final WAV in Soundforge and run a quick analyzer on it to verify the peak and RMS values to be sure they're close to what I'm seeing in the DAW's meters. They are not always an exact match, the fault of the DAW (Sonar). But knowing this and checking for it eliminates any baked mixes getting through.

    Fwiw - while doing track level work and/or at the first couple mastering stages, I obviously leave more headroom than that.
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    What are your mastering stages if you don't mind me asking?

    Yes, of course. The peaks are where they're supposed to be (RMS values are a bit lower than in DAW). I also have SoundForge and I always open my masters on SF, regardless of whether I'm going to do fade-outs/fade-ins etc.
    I think part of the problem was that I had a brickwall HP filter on my kickdrum, which caused resonance, which in turn caused a really long low-end sustain that I couldn't hear at any stage, but it was definitely eating up the headroom. Also, I did not HP my bass guitar. I hope that my material translates to other systems better now.

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    There's some variation in my process, and I recently had a thread in this section addressing (and finalizing) my mastering chain. I do some soft compression (C6 multiband), EQ, light tube compression (still tinkering with my Puigchild plugin), and some hard prioritized limiting (Waves L3) at the very last step. That comes out of my DAW at -0.2 to -2.0db and in Soundforge I normalize to -0.01 as well as verify the RMS is ballpark. Frankly, my mixes are pretty much the final product and I do very little shaping in the mastering stage on most tracks.

    So it sounds like you're not hearing issues, which means your monitoring situation needs some improvement(?).
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    What they said about uploading wav but they are big.
    256k mp3 seems fine.
    Sometimes you can just level it by ear.

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    I wish I knew. My multi track recorder seems to blow the volume up over 200% after I master and normalize the song file.

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    Loudness

    I'm amazed that everyone still trys to push the limits of mastering in a day & age when most streaming services and radio broadcasters level their output. One guy posted that his limiter was set to -0.01 and he couldn't understand why it was clipping. The loudness war is coming to an end but so many are still on the battle field. My advice is to google or look on youtube for Ian Shepherd. There is an abundance of videos on the subjects of lossy conversions, truncation, intersample peaks and clipping. Every streaming service has its own set of specs and a criteria for uploading to their site. Ozone7 has a great process that eliminates guesswork and lets you preview & meter your file destinations. Otherwise... Melda has a free loudness (not RMS) meter and there are other reasonable offerings for less than $30. Every song is different and there are so many applications that asking for some formula that applies to everything is a bit naive. Research will be your best friend and in today's world, information is free.

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