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    Quote Originally Posted by witzendoz View Post
    The negatives weren't on Gear Sluts site were they? They are negative about everything. Found 1 negative in a load of positives on sweetwater?
    Yeah, seems the gearslutz will poo poo on anything under a million bucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFR View Post
    Yeah, seems the gearslutz will poo poo on anything under a million bucks.
    Then they will argue about which million buck thing is better.

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    Yes, they were negative, but the issues mentioned are still concerning.

    The Signature is a nice looking board and compact also, but it lacks some basics and connectivity.

    The ZED looks ok - It is firewire though, which is near-extinct, but if it has connectivity, might be worth a closer look.

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    So I'm re-reading this thread...can you summarize at this point how many inputs and outputs (groups and aux busses) you are wanting/needing? And I understand you want it to by physically smaller than your M-2600, yes? So, like, what size footprint would you like to stay inside?

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    DO! Grab the August copy of Sound on Sound . The Soundcraft Ui24R therein reviewed looks like the solution to A LOT of peoples mixer problems?

    Dave.

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    Ha! Just took a look and I can't think of single problem that little mixer would solve in my studio.

    Different strokes for different folks.

    There are lots of similar devices on the market, which certainly fill a need. I spend a lot of time in front of various models of Behringer X32, and they are extremely powerful... but they serve live audio better then the flexibly I seek in the studio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sr71rules View Post
    Ha! Just took a look and I can't think of single problem that little mixer would solve in my studio.

    Different strokes for different folks.

    There are lots of similar devices on the market, which certainly fill a need. I spend a lot of time in front of various models of Behringer X32, and they are extremely powerful... but they serve live audio better then the flexibly I seek in the studio.
    I think if you read the review in depth you will come to understand that the mixer is NOT like any other on the market!

    Dave.

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    why doesn't anyone hardly ever offer up presonus boards as a very good low price alternative. for the money, hard to beat 'em. been using the 16.4.2 for years now .no problems and great sound for the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetbeats View Post
    So I'm re-reading this thread...can you summarize at this point how many inputs and outputs (groups and aux busses) you are wanting/needing? And I understand you want it to by physically smaller than your M-2600, yes? So, like, what size footprint would you like to stay inside?
    Basically, I need 16 channels for bringing 16 channels from DAW, plus flexible routing for the 8 tracks from tape as well as a smaller footprint. Plus the M2600 is exhibiting some issues.

    I upgraded my budget for an analog board and I am now seriously looking the Toft ATB-16a Revision 3.

    The Toft has many of the features I like, and is similar to the M2600 in routing flexibility, cue/aux mixes, 8 buss, monitor/flip, etc. The main issues with the Toft are the price and reliability. I read and hear that the Revision 3 is much better in reliability than their older consoles.

    I will have to check out the Soundcraft Ui24 though. I am still in the research phase, so suggestions always welcome.

    As far as Presonus, I have investigated the StudioLive series III, and they of course are all digital. They seem overly complex, geared more for live use, and surprisingly, have zero DAW control (expected later this year - which means a firmware upgrade).

    Yes, I have a DAW/hybrid system, but to be honest, I am getting more and more tired of the constant digital upgrades and the planned obsolescence. My M2600 and other analog gear has lasted over 20 years. I just want to make and mix music at this point rather than spend a lot of time on constant digital upgrades or repair for older analog gear.

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    " I am getting more and more tired of the constant digital upgrades and the planned obsolescence"

    I don't really understand it Fstrat but apparently the Ui24 does not run on an 'app' but via a browser. This, it seems is a good thing and means the mixer can be controlled by almost anything with a processor in it.

    Dave.

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