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    Quote Originally Posted by MagashMusic View Post
    Yes, I get that it's just an outboard processor running an algorithm but the question is if it's the same algorithm or is the hardware versions one better for some reason...
    The PCM algorithms are better than the mx400 algorithms. You aren't really testing hardware vs. software, you are testing PCM vs. MX.

    Any of the 'magic' or 'mojo' of something like the PCM70 would come from the analog front end and/or the vintage converters.

    The JCM800 analogy doesn't work because the amp sims are simulations. The lexicon algorithms are the same, just ported over to work as VST's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagashMusic View Post
    Everyone is always talking about how hardware stuff is better than vst so I thought that even the ''real'' lower range would be better than the ''fake'' vst.
    I note you put "fake" in quotes, but nevertheless, there is nothing fake about a VST.

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    If the plugin sounds just as good as the hardware unit doesn't it make the hardware obsolete..?
    Kind of. Hardware is till useful for analog systems (as someone noted), and also for live systems.

    Quote Originally Posted by MagashMusic View Post
    I mean, the plugin bundle is 600$ while the PCM92 is 1800$ 3 times the price...!!
    A lot of the difference in cost is due to, well, the hardware: the case, the circuit boards, the components . . . and so on.

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    I get everything you all are saying but I just want someone to somply say: ''I've used both harware and vst PCMs and they sound the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagashMusic View Post
    It doesn't matter to me if it has more options or not, I'm just interested in which one sounds better. The fact that it has more options doesn't mean that it's better. Like guitar fx processors, they have a ton of options but a real jcm800 with just one channel beats them all with no problem...
    I addressed 'doesn't it make the hardware obsolete'.
    The sound can be as good, or better -depending, and the hardware can do more- or less depending.
    You can apply whatever single factor you like.
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    I've used both, they are the same. I can use the interchangeably.
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    its getting harder to defend hardware.
    listened to the tracks several times and I still find the hardware track a little brighter and clearer but its splitting hairs.
    in other words its not going to make or break the tune, imo.

    maybe the real question is do I spend $300 on a hardware piece? when the VST does just fine.
    seems theres an ocean of freeware on KVR and places too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farview View Post
    I've used both, they are the same. I can use the interchangeably.
    Haha, that's what I've been looking for!

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    Thank you all guys for the input, I think I got everything I needed. Basically, I'll keep using the vst PCM and trade the MX for a preamp or cempressor...

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