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    Behringer ADA8000 - stinky or not?

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    i'm about to buy a Behringer ADA8000 (8x8) i was wondering what you guys have to say about it. i've read some pretty bad stuff about Behringer on here so far but they make pretty good cabs so... what's the deal?

    what about their compressors?

    thanks for the help
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    Thumbs up not stinky...

    Larry Crane from Tape-Op and Paul White from Sound on Sound both gave the ADA 8000 positive reviews. Both of them were incredulous that such a good set of eight preamps could cost so little, and both mentioned the clarity and lack of undue noise.

    They have way more access to all types of gear than you or I could ever hope to have, and they're both good writers who take the time to review gear without prejudging it because of price.

    So 'not stinky' is their verdict. And also quiet, neutral and not noisy. I own 3 Behringer products - an EQ, a B-1 mic and a V-Amp Pro - and they're at least as good as stuff that would've cost five times as much 10 years ago.

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    I've owned an ADA8000 for the last few months. While they're certainly my worst pres, they're also pretty darn usable. The last 25% of the dial their pretty frigging noisy, and I don't put any of my dynamics through them, but they're much better than I imagined them to be. I mainly bought mine to add more IO to my system with its unused ADAT, but I've been using the pres with good success. I don't regret the purchase one bit.

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    Ada8000

    If you need the ADAT, it's an amazing plain-vanilla bargain. Remember: no EQ, no inserts---only pad. Phantom power is global (all channels or none) and 48kHz is the max. That being said, you should expect the same performance that you would get from the channel insert sends on a 4580 opamp strip (Mackie VLZ Pro, Behringer UB, Yamaha MG, etc.). Clinique, not boutique.

    I've been using one for about 6 months to add 8 more LoZ/phantom channels via ADAT to my recorder for live recordings and multiple mic setups. It's worked flawlessly. I find that the relationship between the pres headroom, peak meter, and ADAT signal makes it very easy to get good ""Popeil" levels into my recorder---"Set it and forget it!".

    There are, of course, other units like this out there with different bells and whistles. The Behringer is the least expensive, and if "plain vanilla" is ok, quite useful.

    Mackie also has a unit like this coming out soon.

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    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun0...daa9145589f288

    look at that review. If you need a cheap way to increase your I/O through ADAT, it seems a great option.

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    I'd like to know how the converters stack up. How do they compare to say a Digi001 or a Presonus Digimax? I don't really give a toss about the preamps.
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    That Tape-Op review wasn't an unqualified rave. My impression after reading the article was that the ADA8000 is sitting squarely in the "bang for buck" arena. So, a great unit for $200 as long as you can accept the compromises.

    It's probably the preamp/converter section of the DDX3216 mixer repackaged. Don't know that for sure though.

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    I tried it in two different situations: against a Presonus DigiMax, and just to add inputs to my system using a mixer (Soundtracs Topaz) as the front end. Against the Presonus, the difference in sound quality was not noticeable until we pushed the pres. The Presonus had more gain to start with, the Behringer needed to be turned up a little. That said, unless we were cranking it, the difference in quality was indetectable.

    Using it with my mixer, I basically bypassed the pres and used it as a line device. In this capacity, I can say that it did the job exactly as I wanted it to. In our studio, it is a backup (the Presonus keeps needing fixes), but it could easily be the main box.

    My main gripe with it is that it doesn't have separate analog outputs. The Presonus has analog and ADAT outputs, so we can use it to send 8 channels digitally to the DAW, while monitoring the analog outputs through our board, thus avoiding all latency issues. With the Behringer, we can't do this. For this reason alone, we use the mixer pres with the Behringer, then send the channel outs from the mixer to the Behringer, and send the digital outs of that to the DAW. A different patching configuration. Annoying, but that's why it's $200.

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    The TapeOp review said it had a bit of a dirty midrange etc. but that overall it would be good on electric guitars or something like that. Larry did give it a thumbs up in its price range, stating that it's a decent cheap alternative.

    The DDX3216 has different specs and twice the oversampling spec on the converters, no these are not the same as the DDX mixer.

    Hell $200 is nothing, give it a shot.

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    Charger -

    Have heard that an ADAT litepipe cable from the I to the O of the behringer acts as a pass-through so you can use it as an analogue in to analogue out preamp system all in one. Don't own one yet, so can't vouch for this, but it makes sense based on what the manual has to say about it.

    Anyone have any more details on the Mackie unit mentioned? (it's not the Onyx 800R, is it?). I'm leaning towards the behringer, but i trust mackie with my life, so if they're coming out with something to compete, i'd throw down extra cash for another product of theirs (but not $1k extra, like the onyx is MSRP'd at...).
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