Midi and Creamware

dangerman

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I am having alot of trouble getting midi to work. I have a creamware soundcard and I am using Sonar 4 PE, but I cant hear any midi noises. Does anyone have any ideas to help me. I also have a Kenton control freak midi control centre but have not been able to get the midi to work so have never tried using it.
 
Here are links to two good articles on midi basics - part one and part two. They may be a little too basic for you, but we can all use a refresher course now and then...

I remember Creamware making soundcards, but a trip to their web site yeilded not much in the way of contining info regarding support, etc. You probably need a new way to get midi and audio into and out of your computer, and a USB interface is probably a good choice. Here's one and here's the one I use.

I have the Peavey version of the Kenton Control freak which gets constant use. It's a programable midi fader bank with user-defined presets that can work well with Sonar, as well as many other midi applcations, and once you realize what midi is all about you'll be glad you have it.
 
Thanks heaps for your help ssscientist. But I am still having trouble connecting the scope fusion platform which is the software that came with the creamware card. Im just not getting any midi noises out of my computer. I downloaded a midi sample song and open it up in sonar, but when i press play there is no sound. I think theres just something in the routing window that I havent connected properly. If anyone has any experience with this or any ideas they would be much apreciated. Thanks
 
dangerman said:
If anyone has any experience with this or any ideas they would be much apreciated.
So you're saying - and quite politely I might add - is that I have missed the point, and the Creamware card referred to in your original post is more than just a soundcard and is still currently being manufactured.

This is from the manual for the Scope Fusion Platform:

Recording MIDI Tracks
MIDI communication between the SCOPE
Fusion Platform and a MIDI sequencer
takes place over a software interface
represented by the Midi Sequencer
Source/Dest modules.
MIDI data sent from the SCOPE Fusion
Platform through the input of the Midi
Sequencer Dest module arrives in the
sequencer at the respecitve MIDI inputs
designated CreamWare Midi In 1-8.
Likewise, MIDI data sent from the
sequencer through CreamWare Midi Out
1-8 enters the SCOPE Fusion Platform at
the output of the MIDI Sequencer Source
module.
The number of MIDI ports available in each
direction is as indcated by the operating
system (default = 2). To register more MIDI
I/Os, first add additional MIDI Sequencer
Source Dest modules, and then restart the
computer.
To route MIDI data from an attached
keyboard to the sequencer you need to
load a [hardware] Midi Source module,
representing one of the SCOPE Fusion
Platform’s physical MIDI inputs, and
connect it to a Midi Sequencer Dest
module.
The [hardware] Midi Source module is
loaded and connected to the Midi
Sequencer dest module as part of the
default project that loads when the Live Bar
starts.
Now, assuming the recorded MIDI track
is to be played back to a MIDI synthesizer,
and you also want to hear the sythesizer
while recording the track, you can proceed
two ways:
a) Connect the [hardware] Midi Source
module to the Sequencer Midi dest
module, and the Sequencer Midi source
to the synthesizer input.
In your sequencer program, adjust the
MIDI settings so that the incoming MIDI
data is passed through to the [hardware]
MIDI Out (set MIDI echo ‘on’ globally, or
per channel - see your sequencer’s
manual or online help) whereby the signal
arrives back in the SFP environment.
b) Connect the [hardware] Midi Source
to the Sequencer Midi dest, and also to
the synthesizer’s MIDI input. Now when
you play the keyboard, the MIDI data are
sent simultaneously to the sequencer and
the synthesizer. If you now want to hear
the sequencer track play back, you must
connect the Sequencer Midi source to
the synthesizer input. Because you cannot
directly connect two outpus to a single
input, you must use the Midi Merger
module to combine the [hardware] Midi
Source and Sequencer Midi source
signals. In this scenario, disable MIDI echo
in the sequencer to avoid doubling the
signal, which could lead to notes misfiring,
delays, or stuck notes.

What I boil this down to is that you need to get a handle on having the Scope Fusion Platform between your midi keyboard or file and Sonar itself. If you still have a hard time with this I recommend you contact Creamware for tech support - I think it's a long shot that you'll find anyone here who uses this same set of hardware and software. Maybe try the Cakewalk forum...
 
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