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    SHURE SM57 same as SM58 ??

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    I need a good mic for both guitar and vocal recording.

    I must say the guitar sound in the recording is more important to me than the vocals.

    As I understand, the SM58 is for vocals while the SM57 is more suitable for instruments recordings, but also that the only difference between them is the existance of the windscreen on the SM58 ...

    Is this correct or is there any other difference between the two ?

    Will guitar recording sound as good with the SM58 as it is when using the SM57 ? Does the vocals sound as good on the SM57 ?

    Do I HAVE to have the SM57 for top quality guitar recording or can I just use the SM58 while taking the windscreen off when recording guitars ?

    Or the SM57 doesn't give good results with vocals ??

    Thanks in advance !!

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    They're mostly the same. I never really liked the 58 all that much for vocals, either. It's supposed to handle ppppppppops ! ! better, but if you ask me, they're both very pippedy-poppedy mics.

    In terms of what will sound better on guitar, take your pick -- they'll both sound about as good - or bad. They sound fine on guitars, but frankly, a good condenser mic will sound noticeably better on accoustic guitars about 90% if the time, and better on vocals about 50%. For electric guitar micing, the 57 will hold only a slight advantage because it has just a hair more bass rolloff to it. It also has a hair more tight of a cardiod pattern, so you'll get a hair less bleed from the room or other instruments.

    But a hair is a hair is a hair.

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    A good condenser mic will sound better on vocals about 50% of the time as compared to a 57? Chess....tell me that you're stoned.....

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    Well, I am stoned . . . but that's kind of beside the point. Correction: "will sound better than a good DYNAMIC mic (in general - not necessarily the 57 specifically)." Geez. Picky, picky. Since when did you become such an old lady, Darth?

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    I am an old lady, Chess! I thought you all knew that? I was just saying that a good condenser I think ALWAYS sounds better on vocals than almost any dynamic mic.

    Oh yeah....here's a picture of me...

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    Hey, you look like old mother hubbard ! ! ! ! ! And no, I don't want a bone.

    . . . It depends a lot on the song and the singer's style . . . but have you ever noticed how many people complain about how their vocals don't sound "warm" enough, or that their mics are too siblant or too harsh?

    Well, duh. Try a dyanmic and your problems in both cases will be solved. I've been noticing more and more with the type of music I'm tracking and the kinds of voices I'm working with that my SM7 is ideal (The sm7 is basically a more expensive version of the 57 and is taylored for vocals, by the way). I've noticed similar flattering results with an Electrovoice RE20 and some of the Senheisers.

    To me, condensers are too crisp, too hyped, and too siblant in too many cases. Not all of them, but a lot of them. And on the flip side, alot of times dynamics aren't crisp or accurate enough to cut through a heavy mix. It's about 50-50, imho.

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    The SM58 is a bit more "sensitive" to sound than a 57.
    On a decent or better mic pre it won't really matter, however,
    for someone working without one it can be a factor.
    Also the 57 tends to hide negative features of a voice like a nasal
    tone or sibilance, as the 58 is slightly hyped around 8Khz to cut
    through a mix without needing to EQ it as much.
    That's why a singer like Tom Petty (who has a nasal tone), used
    the 57 over the 58 in his recordings and live concerts.
    IMHO, the Beta 57 makes a great all round dynamic mike BTW.

    Chris

    P.S. Tom Petty has a good voice and I'm a fan-just trying to be
    objective about which mike he prefers for his singing style.

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    If I'm not mistaken, the 58 has a higher frequency response than the 57...not by much though! I think the 57 is 20h-18k while the 58 is 20h-20k. No noticeable difference..... Am I write or was I struck in the head real hard when I read that somewhere years ago?

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    Originally posted by chessrock
    I've been noticing more and more with the type of music I'm tracking and the kinds of voices I'm working with that my SM7 is ideal (The sm7 is basically a more expensive version of the 57 and is taylored for vocals, by the way). I've noticed similar flattering results with an Electrovoice RE20 and some of the Senheisers.
    Your ears are very perceptive Chess. The SM7 does have a lot of similarities in design and sound to the RE20 (both are large diaphragm dynamics). But it's only resemblance to the SM57, however, is that it shares the same manufacturer and three of the four letter/numbers in the name.

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    Uhhh fella's, the SMack58 is the same as the SMack57. The diff in
    frequency responses comes from the pop-filter and felt wind-screen on the 58. Unscrew the 58's metal pop-filter cover and you got yourself a 57 less the black top ring!

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