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    Ribbon mic for vocals?

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    Hey all! Great contributions here. This is fast becoming a favorite forum!

    I'm looking for a ribbon mic to use primarily on vocals (mostly male). It should be dark, silky, smooth, etc. Typical ribbon qualities. No hyped high frequencies. A relatively flat eq curve with a touch of color. Something with a unique character but in a subtle way if that makes any sense?

    Something in the $300 to $500 range (used) is ideal. Suggestions, comments, opinions, experiences?

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    Perhaps...

    A Karma Audio K-6?

    I really enjoy mine...of course, I mainly use it for my wife's vocals - but it definitely fits the bill of dark and silky...within your price range as well, I think.

    Jay

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    Any ribbon you could get has those qualities. I've never heard a ribbon with a hyped high end, and I question whether such a thing is even possible.

    What you want to avoid with ribbons are words like "dead", "dull", or "lifeless"---in other words, avoid any non-phantom Chinese ribbon with a stock transformer....

    As for suggestions... well, Beyer makes some that are well suited for that task if you're looking for something handheld. If you're okay with big, I'd consider either A. buying the Karma K-6 or B. buying a cheap <$100 Apex (send it back and try again if you find that the ribbon is sagging) and swapping out the transformer with a Lundahl LL2912. If you can solder wires back onto a mic cable, you can do that mod...
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    +1 to the K-6. I absolutely love mine.
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    Beyer M500

    Originally designed as a vocal mic.
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    Have you seen the Cascade FatHead II? The reviews seem very positive on a number of sources.

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    Oktava also has some affordable ribbons:
    http://www.frontendaudio.com/Ribbon_...hones_s/28.htm

    I was reading some posts in rec.pro.audio where folks were saying that changing the transformer on these Oktava ribbons is a huge improvement.

    I recently bought something very similar to the Avant Cr-14:
    http://www.frontendaudio.com/Avant_E...one_p/9682.htm
    I find it very useful and natural for vocals. I'm about to mod it with a transformer but right out of the box it does a decent job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pohaku View Post
    Beyer M500

    Originally designed as a vocal mic.
    agreed...but it is a peaky SOB. not the most ribbony ribbon...all due respect to you...the mighty pohaku...it can rule on the vocal.

    to me, the sm7 is the best ribbon mic for 300-500...and it's not a ribbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue4u
    It should be dark, silky, smooth, etc. Typical ribbon qualities. No hyped high frequencies. A relatively flat eq curve with a touch of color. Something with a unique character but in a subtle way if that makes any sense?
    Quote Originally Posted by dgatwood View Post
    Any ribbon you could get has those qualities. I've never heard a ribbon with a hyped high end, and I question whether such a thing is even possible.

    What you want to avoid with ribbons are words like "dead", "dull", or "lifeless"---in other words, avoid any non-phantom Chinese ribbon with a stock transformer....
    Just to add another bit to the pile- I tried the 'Fathead to go against/with the R121, and later the 'Vinjet and like them both (considering their pricing makes them not much pain I want to see if the slightly flatter (don't want the low mid bump) and more extended high end on the Vinjet as sort of a base from which to 'eq in' vocal final tones. So far I've only had one shot on a male fairly 'rough' vocal but I bailed on it. Too forward high mid, not enough sparkle, cold feet on the 'eq on the way in' thing (back to a 4047 -bing. I'll go again another time. The extra bit of top is there though- the thing sounds broad and wonderful back a bit, acoustic guits' and kit for example.
    Of the three the R121 still has the most presence' out of the box though. That rise is right were it shows on the plots -it's not way up there, but effective.
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    I use a beyerdynamic M130. I just recently acquired a Grace 101 HG preamp (High Gain) to use with it. They go for $650 new, but you might find one for less, used.
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