jonny deep
Disappointing Member
There is an element of truth, but the original claim is incorrect and, as you say, is very misleading. It seems to me that Mr. Sects just enjoys making damning statements.
How to best use MD 421-II
- Thread starter powerval
- Start date
There is an element of truth, but the original claim is incorrect and, as you say, is very misleading. It seems to me that Mr. Sects just enjoys making damning statements.
Please tell me you're wrong.
Unless it's put on, I can't see Jon tripping over himself like this.
Could be just part of the act.
Auralsects
New member
I've told no lies. But you are unable or unwilling to source it. So its you not me... I gave you the sources, I've told you the game, business wants to increase yield the make thousands of processors on one sheet of silicon, Doesn't take a genius to figure some are broken. How do they make money? They lock out the bad processors so it does not have errors? YES, THEY CAN DO IT. You need computer knowledge to survive... Replying to me just shows your lack of knowledge. Don't be afraid, I'm happy to hep!!!!
AARON WATSON BAND, FOR SENN/SHACK MIKES. aLSO, bELLAMY BROTHERS.... yES THEY ARE SWEATY MOFOS...
Last edited:
Steenamaroo
...
If you can't see how this is misleading then we can't help you.
Steenamaroo
...
Any way it was nice playing.
I have to go replace a celeron chip with a pentium, and I'm not even joking.
I have to go replace a celeron chip with a pentium, and I'm not even joking.
Auralsects
New member
Yup you failed. Now you see your flaw, its commendable.. You'd be the first on this forum. They are selling broken chips... The facts are in this guys face and he's playing this game, the well uh, well uh game...
Auralsects
New member
How to neg rep, for say what I said... Its really broken, if they want four core and the wafer only does 2 core the wafer is defective... You can't win this argument. How many way do I translate broken!
Steenamaroo
...
I said your statement is misleading and I stand by it.
If someone buys a celeron chip and I say I can tell them for fact that it's defective. What will they assume?
Will I feel good technically winning the argument?
Your statement was misleading.
My 'argument' is that you're one of those guys who goes around presenting 'facts' that just aren't.....In my opinion, of course.
If someone buys a celeron chip and I say I can tell them for fact that it's defective. What will they assume?
Will I feel good technically winning the argument?
Your statement was misleading.
My 'argument' is that you're one of those guys who goes around presenting 'facts' that just aren't.....In my opinion, of course.
Last edited:
JG96
Active member
This thread has really de-railed but I'm just here to spread some love for the 421! In your position I would definitely use it on kick drum. Its definitely a step above the radio shack mic. Its also my favorite vocal mic for the singer in my band. Its also nice on guitar and bass amps, toms, and many other things I haven't event tried
.
Oh and congrats on winning it! When did they contact you to tell you you won? I signed up for mic month every day and I would love a quality LDC or ribbon mic
.Oh and congrats on winning it! When did they contact you to tell you you won? I signed up for mic month every day and I would love a quality LDC or ribbon mic
Tomm Williams
New member
It is also excellent on sax
Justsomeguy
Quiet is the new Loud
I always forget about using it on kick. Every time i've tried it i've been impressed, but for some reason it never sticks in my brain and i somehow end up back with a D112 and sE Titan combo
Note to self; use 421 on kick more.And yeah, it's wicked on bass amps as well
In fact, it's just ace in general! The only thing i've never been sold on is using it on snare. I've tried it a handful of times and have always ended up with a SM57 instead. the 57 just seems to have more punch ime.Tomm Williams
New member
At one time I owned 4 of them, they sounded great but too big and fragile for my application. Switched to EV 308's which IMO sound just as good on horns and are far cheaper, easier to position and quite durable. Still a free 421.........hell yes!!
I do live sound for a big band and all seven of the saxophones in the front row get a 421.
They love, I love it - Winning.
They love, I love it - Winning.
Brento
New member
The D112 is an AKG mic, affectionately known as the "egg". AKG have recently released an update of the original D12 - haven't used one yet but the original was far superior on kick than the egg in my opinion (I own a D112, and I often find myself rolling off at about 1.6 - 2kHz when I use it). My favourite "kick" mic is the EV RE20, which is not a kick mic at all - it was designed as a radio announcers mic. One mic that we used to see in kick drums a lot was the Beyer M88, designed as a stage vocal mic - I never liked this mic for either application and always replaced it with one of my own on walk ins. Thankfully, you hardly ever see them anymore. I'm not trying to start a fight here, and I know many engineers that still like the M88 - each to his or her own.
To return to the original post, the MD 421 used to be used a lot on toms in the 70's and 80's, but they are out of fashion in this application these days in favour of less unwieldy mics - the 421 is HUGE! I still like them on toms though, and as Richard Monroe said above, they are a great sax mic. Also mentioned above (by Steenamaroo), great on guitar cabs especially when used in tandem with a 57 - you often see this mic combination in gtr amp modelling software like NI Guitar Rig. I wouldn't worry about the low end roll-off: a friend of mine thought his 421 was damaged until I switched the roll-off out for him. 421's aren't the worst kick mic in the world, but that roll-off has got to be out. All up , the 421 is a great dynamic mic for detail in mid-range frequencies.
It strikes me that I haven't said anything here that hasn't already been mentioned, so I will: Fellow Aussies who are old enough will remember the day when Prime Minister Gough Whitlam was dismissed from office, standing on the steps of Parliament speaking into the original version of the 421 (this one was beige, not black): "Well may we say God save the queen, for nothing will save the Governor General"...
Cheers,
brento
To return to the original post, the MD 421 used to be used a lot on toms in the 70's and 80's, but they are out of fashion in this application these days in favour of less unwieldy mics - the 421 is HUGE! I still like them on toms though, and as Richard Monroe said above, they are a great sax mic. Also mentioned above (by Steenamaroo), great on guitar cabs especially when used in tandem with a 57 - you often see this mic combination in gtr amp modelling software like NI Guitar Rig. I wouldn't worry about the low end roll-off: a friend of mine thought his 421 was damaged until I switched the roll-off out for him. 421's aren't the worst kick mic in the world, but that roll-off has got to be out. All up , the 421 is a great dynamic mic for detail in mid-range frequencies.
It strikes me that I haven't said anything here that hasn't already been mentioned, so I will: Fellow Aussies who are old enough will remember the day when Prime Minister Gough Whitlam was dismissed from office, standing on the steps of Parliament speaking into the original version of the 421 (this one was beige, not black): "Well may we say God save the queen, for nothing will save the Governor General"...
Cheers,
brento