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    Quote Originally Posted by RFR View Post
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    You were going to say something?
    Am I taking shit or making some sense with my approach?

    Oh...You remember I asked you awhile ago about filing the nut slots and that I was going to get the file set. Well, I went ahead with it, and then had the files for a couple months...until I got up the nerve to file the slots.
    Heck....once I did the first one, it was actually pretty easy. I followed your advice and every few passes I would recheck the string height, until I get the feel for it.
    After that, the rest of the guitars were pretty fast. I just went for the "ping" of the strings on the first fret while pressing at the second. That was my "gauge".
    I actually had a couple of guitars that I know were done well at manufacturing, and when I checked them, the slots were spot-on, and that's how they were...just a "ping" off the first fret. I gave the low E and A just ____ hair more height.

    Anyway...I managed not to fuck up a single slot, and now all my guitars are set up the same.

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    I was going to say something, then said fuck it, I don't feel like typing any more.

    Good your stuff turned out well.

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    There are a few things you can do on any Guitar to improve tune stability. Make sure you put the strings on right, with the correct amount of winds and everything neat. Lubricate every point of contact at the bridge, saddle, nut. I use Big Bends Nut Sauce. It sticks better than graphite. Stretch your strings. Make sure the nut is cut properly. Make sure it's not your playing technique.

    A Strat with a floating bridge is more of a pain to keep in tune.
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    I have an '01 Gibson Studio - stays in tune really well, unless weather extremes...then it'll get slightly higher in pitch even overnight. But generally, it's pretty sturdy.
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    Sprinkle everything with baby powder, lots and lots of baby powder.


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    I have a 76 LP that stays in tune very well. I think over the years it stayed in tune better as it aged.....so I wonder if the nut wearing down a bit might have made it better. It has the original tuners....bridge.....saddle....etc.

    The original OP didn't really get specific as to what he meant by being out of tune. I know that sounds like a dumb statement........but he could be referring to the G string issue......which is worse on my LP than my Strat.......or an intonation issue.......or other problems with tuning. Since he brought the guitar to Sam Ash I'm going to take a leap here and say that the tech would have checked intonation at least.
    Just A Song Writer..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Doobie View Post
    Sprinkle everything with baby powder, lots and lots of baby powder.

    Or.. cook some bacon. Slather the whole guitar with bacon grease. (Cooled off of course)
    No more problems and your studio will smell good.
    Everybody loves the smell of bacon.

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    The "luthier" recommended grovers because he diagnosed that the tuners were your problem?
    Even cheap assed tuners rarely slip. I would demand he replace the old tuners and refund my money.
    He is obviously not very knowledgeable.

    things that cause tuning instability on a fixed bridge guitar like a Las paul is:
    #1 the nut...usually if the slots are deep the string will bind in the nut.
    #2 The strings aren't stretched out yet

    #3 too many wraps around the tuner post..2 wraps is all you need.

    that's about it.....other than some major structural issue like a neck separating from the body or the tunamatic posts holes being wallered out, or the tuner screws being loose.

    go back to Sam Ash, find a manager, bend his ear, get a refund.....go somewhere else.

    Also, if the headstock had to be altered in any way to fit the grovers.....letting you have the grovers, giving your tuners back, AND refunding you money would be them getting off cheap.
    My 2 cents.
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    Nice tuners really are an upgrade on any guitars IMO. That said, I doubt the stock tuners on a Gibson Les Paul were that bad to begin with. Keep you upgraded tuners if you like them, but as Jimistone said tuners probably not the source of your tuning stability problem.

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