8 ohm head, 4 ohm cabs

Walt-Dogg

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I've got an 8 ohm bass head, and two 4 ohm cabs, is this safe to plug into? No suggestions, no questions. Just can I plug my 8 ohm bass head safely into two 4 ohm 8x10s?

Or actually. A 4 ohm head into to 4 ohm cabs?
 
No questions? Can't answer - or rather I won't answer. Depending on how the amp output jack(s) is/are wired it could be fine or fried. Depends on the amp.

No suggestions? RTFM is out of the question I suppose. Good luck. Watch for the magic smoke.


lou
 
NO! Cab's are typically connected in parallel when you daisy-chain several cab's. Plugging into 2 4-ohm cab's would show your amp a load of 2 ohms. That will be very bad for you amp, it's suck waaay to much current and probably fry your amp.

What you need to do is get those 2 4-ohm cab's wired up in SERIES. 2 4-ohm cab's in series would be 8 ohms.

OR probably easier - re-wire the speakers in each cab so each cab is 16 ohms instead. A 4-ohm 8x10 is probably all 8-ohm speakers wired as 4 sets of (2 speakers in parallel to 4 ohms). Those 4 2-speaker sets are wired series/parallel to grand total 4-ohm load. What you need to do is wire those 4 2-speaker sets in series to produce a 16-ohm cab. THEN you can daisy chain the 2 cabs in parallel to achieve the 8-ohm load load your amp wants.
 
No. You must match the cabinet load with what the amp expects to see. two 4 ohm cabinets hooked up to the head will create a 2 ohm load and low the amp up.

If the lowest the amp can handle is 8 ohms, even one 4ohm cabinet will be bad.
 
What you need to do is get those 2 4-ohm cab's wired up in SERIES. 2 4-ohm cab's in series would be 8 ohms.

OR probably easier - re-wire the speakers in each cab so each cab is 16 ohms instead. A 4-ohm 8x10 is probably all 8-ohm speakers wired as 4 sets of (2 speakers in parallel to 4 ohms). Those 4 2-speaker sets are wired series/parallel to grand total 4-ohm load. What you need to do is wire those 4 2-speaker sets in series to produce a 16-ohm cab. THEN you can daisy chain the 2 cabs in parallel to achieve the 8-ohm load load your amp wants.

Remember, he wants no suggestions! :spank:
 
Now what about a 4 ohm head and two 4 ohm cabs?

Also, SUPERSTAR I'm NOT going to be daisy chaining.

The only reason I said "no suggestions, no questions." is because I DO NOT want to be told "no, no, no, you wanna do it this way, by getting an amp and this cab, and rewiring this, blah blah blah..." All I have is a head and two 8x10s (which I'm assuming are 4 ohms.) I don't know how many ohms the heads at my disposal are.

I have two 4 ohm 8x10s. What's the safest way to connect them to a head (to simplify, how many ohms does my head need to be to safely run two 8x10s in PARALLEL? SERIES? TWO OUTPUTS, TWO CABS. One output, two cabs.
 
Now what about a 4 ohm head and two 4 ohm cabs?
No. When you plug two 4 ohm cabs into the head, the head will see 2 ohms. The speaker outputs on an amp are wire in parallel, so two 4 ohm cabinets will be 2 ohms, two 8 ohm cabinets witll be 4 ohms, etc...

All I have is a head and two 8x10s (which I'm assuming are 4 ohms.) I don't know how many ohms the heads at my disposal are.
If the head is a tube head, you can't assume anything. You have to match the impedance with the head. If it is a transistor head, then you can have anything above the minimum impedance.

I have two 4 ohm 8x10s. What's the safest way to connect them to a head (to simplify, how many ohms does my head need to be to safely run two 8x10s in PARALLEL? SERIES? TWO OUTPUTS, TWO CABS. One output, two cabs.
IF your cabinets are 4 ohms and you head can handle 2 ohms, just plug the two cabinets in and you will be fine.

If the amp can only handle 4 ohms, you can only use one of the cabinets (assuming you are right and they are 4 ohms each).

It doesn't matter if you run two outputs on the head to two cabinets or you just run one output to the first cab and daisy chain to the second one, it is still 2 ohms because they will still be wired in parallel either way.

If you are talking about Ampeg 8x10 cabs, then they are 4 ohms. If you are powering them with a newer (not from the 70's) SVT, it should handle a 2 ohm load. But don't take my word for it, they did different things in different era's. They made 8 ohm 8x10 cabs so that you could run four of them off of one head. Way back, they made 8 ohm cabs so that you could run two off of the SVT from the 70's that (If I remember correctly) only went down to 4 ohms.

If you built your own speaker cable to wire both cabinets in series, that would get you an 8 ohm load. However, if you screw it up, you will blow the amp.
 
You have to find out what everything is and go from there. As long as the amp sees as much or more load than it's rated for you are okay. A 4 ohm amp wants a 4 ohm or higher load. Going into a heavier load just knocks the output level down a bit. Going into a lighter load will kill the amp. Most amps have load select switches on them, usually 4 and 8 ohms and sometimes 16. Or 8 and 16. I have never seen a guitar amp with a 2 ohm selection but there are probably some out there. Amps will have one or two output jacks and you will need to know how they are wired as well. Your option is to daisy-chain two cabs off one jack or run separately (but it may well amount to the same thing.)

The cabs should have ohm ratings on them and inputs marked parallel or series for daisy chaining so you know whether to add or divide the loads. If they don't you will need to look at the speakers and wiring with a diagram in hand to determine this yourself (be a good sport and write it on the back for the next guy).

***DISCLAIMER***
This shit drives me nuts as well but all my stuff is labeled and I don't daisy-chain. I can never remember series/parallel (need to come up with a mnemonic) which does what and if presented with different stuff I always look it up again. Double-check what I have posted for accuracy.


lou
 
Alright I think I've got it now.

So I know for sure I'm going to have access to two 8x10s that are both 4 ohms, if the head cant handle 2 ohms, then it's a no go for using both cabs, correct?
 
Daisy chaining is the same way, parallel.
Well here's why I asked: I have a couple of Rocktron 1X12 cabs that have 3 jacks on the back; Input, Parallel out and Series out. These are only a few years old. (My stage rig was direct out to PA and the two Rocktrons on either side facing in as monitors.)

My Vox amps are paralleled output jacks but I didn't want to assume that for all and after seeing the Rocktrons I figured cabs might be anything.


lou
 
Well here's why I asked: I have a couple of Rocktron 1X12 cabs that have 3 jacks on the back; Input, Parallel out and Series out. These are only a few years old. (My stage rig was direct out to PA and the two Rocktrons on either side facing in as monitors.)
That has got to be one of the only exceptions. I have never seen anything that does that and I've been doing this since the 70's.
 
That has got to be one of the only exceptions. I have never seen anything that does that and I've been doing this since the 70's.
Figures I'd get some oddball. I was thinking it's just marketing more options. Some poor fool is gonna hook 'em up wrong...


lou
 
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