Are real drummers "extinct?"

**RockinRobby** · 12-23-2012

I would argue, "perhaps?"

I'm not saying yes?

I'm not saying no....

But I can write songs? Good songs? And I'm not sure they need "a drummer?"

Nothing against drummers? I am actually in awe of their physical talent and ability... But like the Typewriter? Have they become obsolete?

They're still nibbling at the tops of trees? Like big Paleo-Dinosares? However, as the long neck dino's went existent? I believe drummers (except for live drummers)

Will go the way of the typewriter repair man... Once useful? But now no longer so...

**Chili** · 12-23-2012

This doesn't belong in the MP3 Clinic. I moved it to the drum section.

Let the games begin....

**c7sus** · 12-23-2012

Have drummers become so lazy they don't even reproduce any more?

**Greg_L** · 12-23-2012

Drummers have only become obsolete to those that are content with just getting by.

**chuckduffy** · 12-23-2012

Look - I'm not even a drummer and the whole idea is silly and a little insulting, and I will never understand this line of thinking. There is simply no comparison to anything you are gonna come up with versus a great drummer on a great kit in a great room. Night and day. Not even close. Hell, if you really buy into that line of thinking you could just replace drums in your statement with any other instrument.

**fat_fleet** · 12-23-2012

It's weird- guitar modellers do exist but if anyone posted about guitars being obsolete, most here would have a coronary. I think drums are harder to play, master, get right etc.

**dbogdan** · 12-23-2012

We love drummers! There is NOTHING on the market that comes even close to the real thing.

**miroslav** · 12-23-2012

Originally Posted by dbogdan

We love drummers! There is NOTHING on the market that comes even close to the real thing.

You could say that about everything....but people use all kinds of sims and samples day in and day out in music production, and have been for quite some time....so it's a bit late to start thinking like an absolute purist.
I bet 99.9% of the guys here use some form if sim or sample every time they work on some music....heck, most of digital audio is based on "sims".

I'm certainly the last person to knock "the real thing", and it's always the preferred option...but it's about using all the tools...a means to an end.

To tell the truth...I'm not even sure what the OP is asking/saying...?

Originally Posted by RockinRobby

But I can write songs? Good songs? And I'm not sure they need "a drummer?"

How does writing good songs = a drummer not needed....?....unless they are songs that just don't have drums in the production?
Are you talking about not needing *drums* or not needing a real drummer because he's been replaced with sampled/sequenced drums...???

**jimmys69** · 12-23-2012

Originally Posted by RockinRobby

I would argue, "perhaps?"

I'm not saying yes?

I'm not saying no....

But I can write songs? Good songs? And I'm not sure they need "a drummer?"

Nothing against drummers? I am actually in awe of their physical talent and ability... But like the Typewriter? Have they become obsolete?

They're still nibbling at the tops of trees? Like big Paleo-Dinosares? However, as the long neck dino's went existent? I believe drummers (except for live drummers)

Will go the way of the typewriter repair man... Once useful? But now no longer so...

I'm just going to make one comment, and then give a personal opinion. Just two lines, simple and clear....

You come across as a total prick, and I don't like your attitude. Oops, I put personal opinion in there. Sorry..

You should just leave this site, if you don't wish to learn from those that have years of experience, that 'at one time' were willing to help you.

Look forward to NOT hearing from you anytime soon. $#@*(&*&

**grimtraveller** · 12-23-2012

Originally Posted by miroslav

Are you talking about not needing *drums* or not needing a real drummer because he's been replaced with sampled/sequenced drums...???

Originally Posted by chuckduffy

Look - I'm not even a drummer and the whole idea is silly and a little insulting

I don't think it is insulting. It's actually a valid question. Look at the EZ drummer thread. It's run to 5 pages. That alone tells you that drummers are becoming more obsolete ~ as are other instrumentalists generally. Some genres of music have almost dispensed with the need for instrumentalists at all. In some fields, programmers rule the roost. And in the case of home recording, it's the logical conclusion, I'm afraid. Fred who wants to just get some songs down knows that they don't have to find a drummer in order for this to happen. The advent of the one person operation has paved the way to instrumentalists becoming less needed and software developers have catered to the gap in that market.
So the question itself isn't dumb.
My feeling, however, is that the advent as such, is tragic. I say that as a lover of drums. I'm not a lover of drum machines, but I love drums.

Originally Posted by chuckduffy

great drummer on a great kit in a great room.

I don't particularly know what a great room sounds like and the kit I have at home would possibly be laughed out of town by many of the percussion cognoscenti, but I don't care. Whether it's a shit kit or top of the range is neither here nor there to me. I don't think I've ever heard a kit and said "ahh, that is a great set of drums". They pretty much sound to me like.......drums !
I remember encouraging my mate to get into percussion, so much so, he's more known as a percussionist now. And even though I use percussion in lots of my stuff, I wouldn't be happy to just use percussion without the drums. To be honest, if I had absolutely no access to drummers, I'd chuck in writing and recording because most of what I write has drums configured somewhere, even though they're not going the whole time.