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    Hey everyone. I'm having some trouble recording my kick drum. I've tried many different ways to alter the sound of the kick in my recordings. Multiple mics, multiple mic positions, alternate tunings. Still, I have not found a Vinnie Paul type sound coming from my kick drum. I have achived creating a "Click" sound. But I have never gotten a full kick drum sound in my recordings. Any help would be appreciated.

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    You have to consider the possibility that there is probably some layering of different kicks going on on the recordings. If you have the means, try triggering a sample that you recorded of the click sound and some with more body together and see what you come up with. Blend to taste.

    One tool that would be good for this is Drumagog. There's a demo available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalMechanik
    Hey everyone. I'm having some trouble recording my kick drum. I've tried many different ways to alter the sound of the kick in my recordings. Multiple mics, multiple mic positions, alternate tunings. Still, I have not found a Vinnie Paul type sound coming from my kick drum. I have achived creating a "Click" sound. But I have never gotten a full kick drum sound in my recordings. Any help would be appreciated.
    Vinnie triggers his kick....so you're not going to achieve that sound with a mic.

    edit; like m.r. has stated. I believe he blends the triggered sound with the acoustic sound.
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    Im sure you can dig up an article somewhere online where Vinnie discusses his techniques. I know that I have read that he tunes the head down to the point where it is about to fall off. Then he uses plastic or wood beaters and something like one of those beater pads with the metal in it for added thwak.
    Unfortunately if you play with your heads tuned like this, you will have to change them alot. Im not a drummer but this has been my experience. The head will go dead alot faster when played hard with loose tunings.

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    Thanks alot, I've never been a big fan of trigger. But if I have to use them to make my kicks sound how I want them to sound, I gotta get some triggers happening on my drums. Thanks!

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    Yes it is sad, nearly all of the drums in metal now days are triggered. I look forward to the day that the "acoustic" kit is popular again.

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    why would u want that kick sound? JK, to each his own.

    From what I have read, guys like Vinnie and Lars use re-20's on their kicks. They also double trigger them. One going to a brain or computer, and the other going into a gate, with a very short "open" time, for that little CLICK at the attack of the hit
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalMechanik
    Still, I have not found a Vinnie Paul type sound coming from my kick drum.
    Hrm just make it sound bad and it will be close enough... hehehe....

    Seriously though, you gotta do some sound replacement/triggering to get that sound... and then seriously crank the EQ around 6.2 to 8khz. Just make it as clicky and annoying as humanly possible.

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    Tune it loose, use a hard beater and a "clicker" pad, and see if you can't buy or borrow an Audix D-6. The mic pretty much wants to make that sound by itself.

    But yeah, most of the drummers with that sound are sampling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalMechanik
    Hey everyone. I'm having some trouble recording my kick drum. I've tried many different ways to alter the sound of the kick in my recordings. Multiple mics, multiple mic positions, alternate tunings. Still, I have not found a Vinnie Paul type sound coming from my kick drum. I have achived creating a "Click" sound. But I have never gotten a full kick drum sound in my recordings. Any help would be appreciated.
    Vinnie uses triggers. The sound that he triggers is layered and cannot be gotten from one drum.
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