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    Don't really have a way to. Someone else may be able to do it though.
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    If you look around in the mp3 mixing forum for a post "First Effort" and download one of the songs off there.. it's the full band, but we used his drum technique..didn't spend a lot of time messing with it though..

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    1) Too many people asking about minimal techniques to let this die
    2) This is too good of a technique to let it die.
    3) Try it if you havent already.
    4) Send me money.
    5) Kiss my ass.

    Thank you.
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    Come on people, try it and give me your opinions....
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    Thumbs up I tried and I am very pleased!

    Do to the lack of any decent condenser mics I set up with SM57's as overheads, another SM57 on the snare, and a 52 in the kick.
    I am very happy with it. This is the best drum sound I have had.

    I have a pretty bad room (15 by 15 with a frew sleeping bags nailed to the wall) and I had no problems. I think using the 57's might even help because it kills a lot of the reflection.

    This method frees you up to concentrate on the sound at the board rather than the placement of the 8 or so mics on the set. Get the kick sound right and you are most of the way there.




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    I also tried this technique back when the thread first appeared,for a four song demo of my band.I used a pair of ECM8000s for the overheads,with an SM57 on the snare and an MXL V67 on the kick about a yard away under a blanket and a kitchen chair (my version of the tunnel).Here is a clip.
    This technique gives you a pretty accurate stereo image inside the normal dimensions of the kit.I plan on experimenting with a wider overhead positioning outside the kit,but also measured to be equidistant to eliminate the phase problems as with the original idea.

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    Tubedude,

    This sounds like a good technique, especially in my room which has bad acoustics.

    How are your mics angled? The horizontal distance from the center of my snare to my right shoulder is only around 18 inches - not separate enough I think for a good stereo image unless the mics are angled away from each other.
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    Tom- Sounds pretty damn good, what preamps were you using on the overheads?
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    Thanks to you tubey for the original post that got me started.I'm convinced its the close-inside the kit positioning which violates the 3:1 rule but gives a great stereo picture, and the measuring which keeps you out of phase trouble.
    For pres I just used an 8 channel Ross mixer.But that's just because it was done in my drummer's garage.A "location" session.Had we been at my place,I'd have put the mics through the audiobuddy and c-port instead.

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    Originally posted by Tukkis

    Do you think you could post a picture or drawing?
    Tukkis
    maybe this will help.
    Put the Mic A right above the center of the snare, at a distance of two drumsticks, but suppose you replace the two drumsticks with a rope of the same length.
    Now add another supposed rope from the center of the kick drum to the capsule of the mic.
    To place the Mic B just start moving the ropes to your shoulder, keeping both of them tight all the time.
    In this way you'll have both mics equidistant to both the snare and the kick. Of course you can use cable instead of rope.
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