pisces7378
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I don't know weather or not to post this here or in the "Recording Techniques" forum. Anyway...
Here is my problem. We have recorded demos upon demos using our Roland JV 2408CD for tracking the drums to a click track with a scratch guitar track for the drummer. Then we burn that to CD-R and import it into Logic Audio Platinum over out our recording/editing suite where we can add all the Bass (recorded D.I.), guitar (either D.I. with a Line 6 POD or the Line out of a Marshall head), and vocals recorded mostly on our Rode NTK vocal mike.
Well I am "satisfied" with the sound all except for the drums. I have two AKG C451B small diaphrams which we use for overheads. I have Shure SM57s on the snare and toms. I have a Shure small diap. cond. mic on the hi-hats, and an AKG kick drum mic. So my problem is NOT the mics. They might not be $100,000 Hollywood mics, but they are fine. Ok. So my next thought was... oh it is the heads. They are way over a year old... so I went out an bought $120 worth of brand new ambasador coated heads for all the toms (top and bottom) and the snare.
I am no genius at tunning drums. I have read literally scores of books on the subject... but I can never find a straight answer on how to get a good sound out of drums. I mean, I can't expect too much... we are recording in a basement 25 ft. x 20 ft. It is not IDEAL drum tracking ambience. But what can I do to get a better sound?
I have the following problem(s)...
- The click track/guitar scratch track that is in the drummer's headphones is leaking out into the AKG C451B overheads BIG-TIME (despite the fact that they are $250 Sony 750 closed in headphones.
- The toms sound like paper when you hit them.
- EVERYTHING is leaking into everything. The overheads are picking up more snare than the damn snare mic is.
Well that about sums up the HUGE problems I am having. I mean, don't get me wrong. The tracks we have recorded sound like fucking Led Zepplin tracks. Huge drums! The cymbals are shimmering through... but I always thought the Led Zeppelin tracks sound like they were recorded in a basement... and we are.. well... recording in a fucking basement. Any tipps on controlling all the rininging toms (without bullshit kleenex taped everywhere) and stuff?
The best advice I have heard so far is... "Since you are recording without a front kick drum head... after miking the kick throw a heavy blanket over it." That will definitely help stop the bleeding, but what else can I do???
Here is my problem. We have recorded demos upon demos using our Roland JV 2408CD for tracking the drums to a click track with a scratch guitar track for the drummer. Then we burn that to CD-R and import it into Logic Audio Platinum over out our recording/editing suite where we can add all the Bass (recorded D.I.), guitar (either D.I. with a Line 6 POD or the Line out of a Marshall head), and vocals recorded mostly on our Rode NTK vocal mike.
Well I am "satisfied" with the sound all except for the drums. I have two AKG C451B small diaphrams which we use for overheads. I have Shure SM57s on the snare and toms. I have a Shure small diap. cond. mic on the hi-hats, and an AKG kick drum mic. So my problem is NOT the mics. They might not be $100,000 Hollywood mics, but they are fine. Ok. So my next thought was... oh it is the heads. They are way over a year old... so I went out an bought $120 worth of brand new ambasador coated heads for all the toms (top and bottom) and the snare.
I am no genius at tunning drums. I have read literally scores of books on the subject... but I can never find a straight answer on how to get a good sound out of drums. I mean, I can't expect too much... we are recording in a basement 25 ft. x 20 ft. It is not IDEAL drum tracking ambience. But what can I do to get a better sound?
I have the following problem(s)...
- The click track/guitar scratch track that is in the drummer's headphones is leaking out into the AKG C451B overheads BIG-TIME (despite the fact that they are $250 Sony 750 closed in headphones.
- The toms sound like paper when you hit them.
- EVERYTHING is leaking into everything. The overheads are picking up more snare than the damn snare mic is.
Well that about sums up the HUGE problems I am having. I mean, don't get me wrong. The tracks we have recorded sound like fucking Led Zepplin tracks. Huge drums! The cymbals are shimmering through... but I always thought the Led Zeppelin tracks sound like they were recorded in a basement... and we are.. well... recording in a fucking basement. Any tipps on controlling all the rininging toms (without bullshit kleenex taped everywhere) and stuff?
The best advice I have heard so far is... "Since you are recording without a front kick drum head... after miking the kick throw a heavy blanket over it." That will definitely help stop the bleeding, but what else can I do???